29-06-2005 03:50									#31
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Maybe Gothenburg isn´t so bad after all...

	29-06-2005 03:54									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Bosh That list is such unbelievable BS.

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quote: Originally posted by Dr Zoidberg Maybe Gothenburg isn´t so bad after all...

Except for the fact that it is ... Gothenburg

	29-06-2005 03:57									#34
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Who let Kuci get out of one of his bathrooms ?

	29-06-2005 05:38									#35
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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn By the way, I'm renting a 4 bedroom townhouse with a basement and a rec room for $1,215 per month. Do you guys consider that cheap?

Oooooh, yeah. I'm renting a 3-bedroom house; it's $1,500/month, and our landlady hasn't raised our rent in ten years. So we have a terrific deal!

	29-06-2005 07:52									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Bosh That list is such unbelievable BS. Seoul more expensive than New York except for the real estate bubble prices for a lot of basic stuff are far far far lower here.

And that is the basci point, now isn't it?

People who live there have to pay for the outrageous property prices.

As for miving to Alabama or Arkansas: how extensive is the network of suicide booths?

	29-06-2005 07:55									#37
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quote: As for miving to Alabama or Arkansas: how extensive is the network of suicide booths?

Well you can walk into pretty much anyone's home and there's a pretty nice set of rifles hanging around in easy reach...

	29-06-2005 07:56									#38
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Nah, still won;t do it. I would be more apt to use the rifle on a few other folks before myself, if only in a vain attempt to make those states more interesting.

	29-06-2005 08:09									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Bosh That list is such unbelievable BS. Seoul more expensive than New York except for the real estate bubble prices for a lot of basic stuff are far far far lower here.

It's expat rating Bosh, so it may not agree with your personal experience.

	29-06-2005 08:15									#40
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quote: That list is such unbelievable BS.

Yep. The fact that the first two cities are Japanese but that not a single Japanese city appears on the list after that makes me question how accurate it is...

	29-06-2005 08:18									#41
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probably becuase they only looked at two japanese cities.

	29-06-2005 08:19									#42
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That's what I figured. Seems pretty US-biased.

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they rank them according to an index (New York = 100) so businesses can quickly see how much more they need to pay their employees abroad for a comparable living standard in new york. (Geneva = 113, so it is 13% more expensive to live in geneva, so you need to pay them 13% more to keep their standard of living equal to that of new york)

	29-06-2005 08:22									#44
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No mention of Anchorage. Traditionally, that's one of American's most expensive cities.

	29-06-2005 08:38									#45
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LoA: yup, as I said, expat ratings

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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn By the way, I'm renting a 4 bedroom townhouse with a basement and a rec room for $1,215 per month. Do you guys consider that cheap?

A terrific deal. If this place was in Riverside, CA I'd be plotting to kick you out and taking over.

My place's 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom for same rent which is considered a good deal in my area.

(by the way I still need a third roommate )

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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger It's expat rating Bosh, so it may not agree with your personal experience.

Hmmmmmm

quote: Mercer conducts the survey to help multinational companies and governments determine how much to pay their expatriate employees.

Hmmmmmmm

If that's what they're measuring maybe its high because corporations have to pay their employees a whole big wad of cash to get anyone in their right mind to move here

But still, there's no conceivable way that Seoul is more expensive than New York. Seoul is cheaper than rural Maine

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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn By the way, I'm renting a 4 bedroom townhouse with a basement and a rec room for $1,215 per month. Do you guys consider that cheap?

I pay C$1,400 a mont for a two-bedroom apartment, 650 gross square feet (measured from the outside), actual is about 500 sq ft.

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quote: Originally posted by Bosh But still, there's no conceivable way that Seoul is more expensive than New York. Seoul is cheaper than rural Maine

Suppose the expats don't cook and eat out at expensive restaurants every night, and suppose they only live in hotels or service apartments, that sorts of things.

You're thinking like a local

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quote: Originally posted by Bosh But still, there's no conceivable way that Seoul is more expensive than New York. Seoul is cheaper than rural Maine

Like LoA says, they look at the cost of having the same lifestyle. So they look at things like how much would dinner cost at a American-style restaurant, how much does it cost to buy American food in a restaurant, etc.

It's also skewed because they usually talk to executives. so they're looking at highend lifestyles.

	29-06-2005 09:20									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai I pay C$1,400 a mont for a two-bedroom apartment, 650 gross square feet (measured from the outside), actual is about 500 sq ft.

Is that all inclusive, i.e., you don't have to pay for rates and management fees and so on? If so, it's not bad.

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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Is that all inclusive, i.e., you don't have to pay for rates and management fees and so on? If so, it's not bad.

All inclusive, and yeah it's okay, but rent rates are going up again.

Still, the interior is well designed and they knocked out a wall to create an open kitchen so it feels even bigger. I'm out in Heng Fa Chuen, near Chai Wan so the rents are cheaper than say over near Central.

You own your place in Hung Hom?

	29-06-2005 09:37									#53
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quote: Like LoA says, they look at the cost of having the same lifestyle. So they look at things like how much would dinner cost at a American-style restaurant, how much does it cost to buy American food in a restaurant, etc.

That's a remarkably stupid way of comparing cost of living. Can't people be a little flexible?

	29-06-2005 12:23									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai Still, the interior is well designed and they knocked out a wall to create an open kitchen so it feels even bigger. I'm out in Heng Fa Chuen, near Chai Wan so the rents are cheaper than say over near Central.

You only have old residential buildings around Central The expensive ones are the massively hyped buildings, e.g. the Arch. So whose bright idea it is to put a hole in a high-rise anyway?

quote: Originally posted by Tingkai You own your place in Hung Hom?

Just renting out a flat in Homantin

	29-06-2005 12:24									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Bosh That's a remarkably stupid way of comparing cost of living. Can't people be a little flexible?

Sure. Choose between expensive and very expensive

	29-06-2005 14:18									#56
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quote: Originally posted by BlackCat Except for the fact that it is ... Gothenburg

Hah! Gothenburg pwns Copenhagen every time...

	29-06-2005 15:34									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Sprayber We don't want all those people coming down here. If everyone was here than it wouldn't be cheap anymore.

But you could sell your trailor for a pretty penny.

	29-06-2005 16:12									#58
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Düsseldorf above Munich? Unbelievable!

I thought the exact same thing. Munich is (at least in Germany) considered the most expensive place to live in.

	29-06-2005 16:25									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Sure. Choose between expensive and very expensive

But that means that Seoul qualifies as expensive due to the cost of its imported designer clothes and its surf
and turf, i.e. the cost of stuff that you'd have to be an idiot to buy regularly if you lived here...

How ridiculous.

	29-06-2005 16:26									#60
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damn amsterdam on the 24th place...didnt expect that actually thought it would be way cheaper i mean it isnt even a 1million people city...