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Oh, wait...no. Nevermind. Just a stray plane. But let's focus on terra, terra, terra instead of that awful performance lastnight anyway...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050629...ital_evacuation

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Police Briefly Evacuate the U.S. Capitol

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WASHINGTON - Police briefly evacuated the U.S. Capitol and the White House Wednesday evening after a plane ventured into restricted airspace.

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An aircraft could be heard overhead, in an area customarily closed to aircraft. The evacuation lasted just a few minutes.

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My evacuations usually last just a few minutes too.

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Faux news even remarked last night about the fake applause moment in the speech. If Faux is commenting on it, you know it was bad...

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I liked the speech. It solidly showed Bush's vision.

I especially like the part about how lots of Americans were wondering whether it's worth it?

I think more are wondering, "now that we're stuck in this goddamned place, does anyone have a clue what we're trying to accomplish and how?"

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Isnt that the fifty billionth time that has happend? I call Bush a cowardly little puss. He has shown weakness and is therefore no longer fit for leadership.

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Isnt that the fifty billionth time that has happend? I call Bush a cowardly little puss. He has shown weakness and is therefore no longer fit for leadership.


But wait! There's more...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8409438/

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U.S. Capitol evacuated briefly
Plane ventured into restricted airspace

BREAKING NEWS
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Updated: 7:17 p.m. ET June 29, 2005

The U.S. Capitol was briefly evacuated early Wednesday evening when a plane ventured into restricted airspace.

The evacuation lasted only minutes before the Secret Service issued an all-clear. The plane was detected 33 miles northeast of Reagan National Airport. The plane violated the flight-restricted zone around Washington. U.S. fighter planes and Border Patrol helicopters were launched at 6:18 p.m. ET.

The aircraft was escorted to the Winchester Regional Airport in Virginia.

Senate had been in session
The Senate was in the process of three roll calls and had finished the third, an amendment to an appropriation to a bill for veterans’ health benefits, when the alert sounded, NBC's congressional correspondent Chip Reid reported.

Reid reported that the evacuation began in an “extremely orderly” fashion and ended uneventfully.

“It was orderly to the point where people were rolling their eyes,” Reid said. “Each time this happens it’s more orderly, and hopefully it will not get to the point where people will not get complacent about it.”

Scott McClellan, White House spokesman, said the alert system at the White House did not go off. The Capitol runs on a separate system. McClellan said that senior staff were beginning to move as the all-clear sounded.
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In a momentary break from TERROR, here's an interesting little fact about lastnight's speech:

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Still, the White House had allotted 40 minutes for the remarks. Without the applause that may have been anticipated, Mr. Bush wrapped up in just 28 minutes.


The whole article:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/...storyId=4724156

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By David Greene

Soldiers Lend Somber Tone to Iraq Speech

“ Polls showed most who saw the speech had a positive reaction. Now the question is whether enough people saw it to make a difference in the overall level of public support for the war. ”

NPR.org, June 29, 2005 · The White House carefully chose its backdrop for President Bush's Tuesday night address on Iraq. It was Fort Bragg, a sprawling Army base in central North Carolina. The president's audience du jour was 700 soldiers.

But to Americans watching Mr. Bush on television, he may as well have been at a convention hall in Washington. Through most of the speech, all viewers saw was the president speaking in front of a stage-style blue backdrop with American flags. The men and women in uniform were not visible except in occasional cutaway shots.

Most striking was the eerie silence in the room. There were no shouts of HOOAH -- the military salute -- and only a single burst of applause during the 28-minute speech (it came after the president said, "We will stay in the fight until the fight is won").

Compare that to his triumphant speech aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln on May 1, 2003, when he spoke in front of a crowd of sailors and announced that major combat operations in Iraq had ended. "The United States and our allies have prevailed," he declared.

That address was interrupted 22 times by raucous applause from the service men and women on deck with the president. And the military setting was front and center.

Many times since then, the president has appeared at bases around the country with uniformed personnel lined up as a backdrop on stage.

It wasn't clear at Fort Bragg on Tuesday night whether the White House had choreographed the scene for respectful silence and a somber mood -- or, whether the soldiers in attendance were just caught up in the speech and taking their cues from the president's own solemn tone.

Afterwards, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said he had seen just what he expected. "It's not the kind of speech where you're out there in a rally," he explained. "It was a serious address to the nation."

Still, the White House had allotted 40 minutes for the remarks. Without the applause that may have been anticipated, Mr. Bush wrapped up in just 28 minutes.

Whether the mood of the evening was one that the White House planned or one it encountered, it underscored the position in which Mr. Bush finds himself.

He gave the speech he wanted to give to a primetime national audience -- all the broadcast TV networks carried it in full -- but said nothing new, and nothing likely to change the national mood about the war.

In polls, clear majorities of Americans say they think the United States is bogged down in Iraq, and that the president and his team have been disingenuous in their rosy assessments. Even those who support the war are less upbeat about it than in the past.

With the benefit of two years of hindsight, his triumphant speech on the deck of the Abraham Lincoln has become a painful memory. And with the benefit of just a few weeks of hindsight, Vice President Dick Cheney's observation that the insurgency in Iraq is in its "last throes" seems to have backfired.

So Mr. Bush seemed to acknowledge the need for more empathy and sensitivity.

"Like most Americans, I see the images of violence and bloodshed," he said. "Every picture is horrifying, and the suffering is real. Amid all this violence, I know Americans ask the question: Is the sacrifice worth it? It is worth it, and it is vital to the future security of our country."

Democrats picked apart the Fort Bragg speech. They said the president didn't offer anything in the way of a plan or exit strategy. And they complained that he resorted to the dubious link between Iraq and al Qaeda, attempting to drum up support for the Iraq campaign by recalling horrific memories of Sept. 11.

This time, however, it would be hard to criticize the president for being rosy. And indeed, his personal demeanor was not so sanguine as usual.

Before his address, Mr. Bush spent three hours meeting quietly in small rooms with nearly 100 family members of soldiers who trained at Fort Bragg and have since perished in Iraq and Afghanistan.

One widow gave the president a bracelet, with the engraved names of her late husband and another soldier who died on the same day in Iraq. She asked the president to wear the bracelet during his address, and he did.

On the flight home aboard Air Force One, McClellan brought the bracelet back to show reporters, as if to demonstrate the personal connection the president had made with grieving families on the base.

It was a sobering end to a day that had begun with great feelings of anticipation and excitement over the Commander-in-Chief's visit to Fort Bragg.

When a plane filled with reporters and White House staff arrived at the base hours earlier in the day, soldiers acted as eager tour guides. A bus carried the visitors from the air strip across the base, with an Army major named Amy Hannah pointing out places of interest.

She informed reporters that some of the military musicians who would warm up the crowd before the president arrived had appeared on Jay Leno's show recently. In a festival-like atmosphere before the presidential address, a military choir sang a hit song by pop country star Toby Keith.

But once the president arrived, walking to the lectern alone and asking his audience to be seated, the room fell silent as a memorial service and remained so for 28 minutes.

Was this the impression the White House bargained for? The day after, it did not seem to matter. Polls showed most who saw the speech had a positive reaction. Now the question is whether enough people saw it to make a difference in the overall level of public support for the war.


Opps.

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My evacuations usually last just a few minutes too.


Like me, you say something apt and funny, and no one notices I hear you Alex

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My evacuations usually last just a few minutes too.


Really? You must not have a real job in a real free market in a real democracy. In a competitive market place workers learn to manage their evacuations in under 30 seconds, so take it from me son, if you want to succeed in the world build up those Abs!


There PH, was that enough attention?

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And a pin for those 'roids.

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In MSNBC they said the speech had an audience of 23 Million, less than most of his previous prime time events (did Clinton have this many policy related prime time shows??.

That's not going to do much in terms of changing poll numbers.

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The evac was authentic. It was a "red" level airspace violation, according to the broadcast e-mail sent to staffers right after. The air defense people were on top of things. They weren't even evacuating Congresscritters. Everyone needs to move along, there's nothing see to here.

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In MSNBC they said the speech had an audience of 23 Million, less than most of his previous prime time events (did Clinton have this many policy related prime time shows??.

That's not going to do much in terms of changing poll numbers.


It's cause most people didn't give a **** what he had to say. At least he didn't pre-empt the "Empire" miniseries on ABC.

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I especially like the part about how lots of Americans were wondering whether it's worth it?

I think more are wondering, "now that we're stuck in this goddamned place, does anyone have a clue what we're trying to accomplish and how?"



Why do you hate freedom and your own country, MTG?

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Allahu akbar!

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Why do you hate freedom and your own country, MTG?


Do you know how ****ing old that is getting?

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Yes, I agree, it is old but I'm sure some brainless, uber-patriotic Americans still use that remark.

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Well, I guess you are used to not being funny .

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Allahu akbar!


As long as your evacuations are swift, MtG. As long as they're swift.



Edit: And DRoseDARs nails the triple crosspost beautifully...

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you've noticed



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Related to Bushs Speech (as he again mentioned 9/11 and because I found it looking for news of the speech on CNN)

I can´t believe that there are still people around who, despite all evidence pointing the other direction, are absolutely sure that Saddam had something to do with 9/11.

O.K. it´s just a republican Senator, I assume from these people you have to expect things like this

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A Republican congressman from North Carolina told CNN on Wednesday that the "evidence is clear" that Iraq was involved in the terrorist attacks against the United States on September 11, 2001.
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Told no investigation had ever found evidence to link Saddam and 9/11, Hayes responded, "I'm sorry, but you must have looked in the wrong places."
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President Bush said in September 2003 that "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11 [attacks]."

Nevertheless, Hayes insisted that the connection between al Qaeda and Saddam and "folks who work for him" has been seen "time and time again."

"Nobody disputes 9/11," Hayes said. "They would do it again if not prevented


http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06....911/index.html

Some Republicans really live in a world of their own, not disturbed by reality

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Anytime I hear someone bring up Iraq and 9/11, I simply remind them 14 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and not a single one of the rest were from Iraq. Lebanon, UAE, and Egypt are where the others are from.

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Anytime I hear someone bring up Iraq and 9/11, I simply remind them 14 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and not one of the rest were from Iraq.




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I edited it to increase the pwnage factor.

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Anytime I hear someone bring up Iraq and 9/11, I simply remind them 14 of the 19 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia and not a single one of the rest were from Iraq. Lebanon, UAE, and Egypt are where the others are from.





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I liked the speech. It solidly showed Bush's vision.

I especially like the part about how lots of Americans were wondering whether it's worth it?

I think more are wondering, "now that we're stuck in this goddamned place, does anyone have a clue what we're trying to accomplish and how?"



Did anyone notice the 'hinting' at Churchils "we shall fight them on the beaches" speech?

 
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