01-07-2005 19:54									#31
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I'm gonna wait until someone is going to go cold turkey. I'll shoot for the 4th or sooner. I'm going to cut down today though. I'm going to try for 5 or less cigs.

	01-07-2005 19:55									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Marijuana is a drug. It's addicting.

So your smilie and matter-of-fact-ness is more qualified than experts who say it isn't addicting?

	01-07-2005 20:00									#33
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous So your smilie and matter-of-fact-ness is more qualified than experts who say it isn't addicting?

I was addicted to marijuana. I've smoked more pot than you can imagine. I became especially addicted to marijuana once after quiting nicotine. Marijuana is much stronger than it was in the old days. It's a powerfull addictive drug.

	01-07-2005 20:01									#34
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I can say from personal experience that Marijuana isn't addictive.

But that's just me... it is for some people.

edit: I was smoking natural and organically cultivated weed grown by trusted friends (luxury of growing up in the country)... I haven't tried the kinds of skunk and spiked buds that are consumed in urban centres... so I can't comment on their nature. There are so many different types of weed and so much crap that it's blended with that there is no single effect caused by it.

	01-07-2005 20:05									#35
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I can't say I've ever been addicted. Addicted would mean that if I had 50 bucks left in my account, I'd spend it on the reefer.

I have smoked my fair share (and then some), however.

	01-07-2005 20:33									#36
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous I can't say I've ever been addicted. Addicted would mean that if I had 50 bucks left in my account, I'd spend it on the reefer. I have smoked my fair share (and then some), however.

I know plenty of people who have spent money on marijuana that they should have spent on something else. I always had plenty of money for it, although I wish I had that money back. It would add up to quit a nice "stash."

Maybe pot is only psychologically addictive, not physically addictive like alcohol or cocaine, but it's addictive none the less. If you can be addicted to things like gambling and eating, you can definitely become addicted to marijuana. And if you are addicted to cigs you have an addictive personality.

I'm not trying to tell you you are addicted. I have no idea. I am trying to tell you that you are smoking something that is addictive.

	01-07-2005 21:17									#37
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Poly OT is a greater addiction... I think I should quit with the OT

	01-07-2005 21:28									#38
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I havnt seen Oerdin yet running alongside I-5

im flying to oakland today around 1.30 for the july 4th weekend but im gonna be back tuesday and if youre reading this Oerdin, I wanna see you humping it over Genessee Dr.

	01-07-2005 21:33									#39
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I'm addicted to being to attached to other people's business believe it or not. It's a compulsion. I'm working on quiting that too.

	01-07-2005 21:48									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Dracon II Patches give you very very weird and vivid dreams.... like real life and incredibly lucid.

I had a similar experience and have mentioned it to others about to go on the patch and about 9 out of 10 confirmed the vivid dreams after starting to use the patch. One of the guys who was successful quiting thought about continuing to use the patch because he liked the dreams.

Note: only people that used the patch 24/7 experienced the dreams.

	01-07-2005 21:53									#41
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Patches just drag the withdrawl out. Cold turkey is the only way to quit. One thing that helped was I took an aspirin and a tylanol and a vitamin C 1000 mg every couple of hours. That knocks back the symtoms to something that can be endured.

Still, it takes guts. Be ready for a fight, the fight of your life!

	02-07-2005 05:32									#42
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quote: Originally posted by rah I had a similar experience and have mentioned it to others about to go on the patch and about 9 out of 10 confirmed the vivid dreams after starting to use the patch. One of the guys who was successful quiting thought about continuing to use the patch because he liked the dreams. Note: only people that used the patch 24/7 experienced the dreams.

If you're not likely to get nightmares... I'd recommend it

Especially if you're sexually repressed. You'll be having some sweet, sweet dreams

Unfortunately I wasn't so I only dreamt about crazy **** like watching the TV telepathically and answering the door to easter egg saleswomen. Curse my wicked mind!

	02-07-2005 05:38									#43
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quote: I'm trying to quit today. It's hard. I haven't even been awake for an hour and I almost gave up already.

Just take it one day at a time, Kid.

	02-07-2005 06:37									#44
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I have smoked less today. I think 6 cigs so far.

Thanks for the encouragement everyone, and thanks for the advice Lancer. I'll try that.

My X called me today and tried to pull some ****. I'm not answering the phone anymore.

	02-07-2005 11:03									#45
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Not feeling any dependence on the maklot sartan.

Good luck, fellas, though it beats me how the hell can you be addicted to cigarettes.

	02-07-2005 13:38									#46
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Come on, how hard can it be? I stop smoking about 30-40 times every day.

Seriously, I hope you'll make it, I know I won't

	02-07-2005 14:20									#47
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quote: My X called me today and tried to pull some ****. I'm not answering the phone anymore.

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	02-07-2005 17:56									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Az quote: My X called me today and tried to pull some ****. I'm not answering the phone anymore. Caller ID

Oh yeah!



And I feel better about quiting today. I may not, but I will cut down a lot. That's the way that I have quit in the past. First I cut way down and then I quit completely. Yesterday I think I smoked 9 cigs.

	02-07-2005 18:19									#49
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Kid - good luck on quitting smoking. How did it work out with your little boy, I was in hospital (fine now) and missed several weeks of OT? I also cleaned out my messages.

	02-07-2005 19:32									#50
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I have had some difficulty quitting today... owing to the fact that I have consumed an entire bottle of wine.

I smoke rollies too... it's very easy to lose sight of one's limitations... you can't exactly say: "I have 10 cigarettes left in my pack... so I'll ration them out". Their economy and cost effectiveness effectively means I smoke more cigarettes.

	02-07-2005 19:49									#51
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I smoked between the ages of 10 to 19, then stopped forever after that.
First 3weeks are crucial - i had to stop going out to pubs and drinking and even being around other people smoking. So after 3weeks of a hermits life i found i just couldn't stand the smell of cigerettes anymore, and having a drag on one nearly made me vomit. I was cured of my nasty addicition.

So its entierly possible, not that easy to do - try to remove the situations that would normaly give rise to your smoking(although a divorce isn't probably the easiest time to try but extra points if you do ).

	02-07-2005 20:04									#52
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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc Kid - good luck on quitting smoking. How did it work out with your little boy, I was in hospital (fine now) and missed several weeks of OT? I also cleaned out my messages.

I gave her custody because he wants to live with her, but I have visitation every weekend.

It's ok so far. She's being a fairly normal *****. It could be better though. She's probably using some drugs, but I don't think it's that bad.

	02-07-2005 20:06									#53
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	02-07-2005 23:07									#54
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Good luck with your little boy, Kid. I'll keep you both in my prayers.

	03-07-2005 00:51									#55
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Thanx Shawn.

	03-07-2005 00:52									#56
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smoking should be banned

	03-07-2005 02:09									#57
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quote: try to remove the situations that would normaly give rise to your smoking(although a divorce isn't probably the easiest time to try

If you wait for an opportune time, you'll always find reasons to put it off.

Good luck Kid, and try to keep your chin up.

	03-07-2005 08:28									#58
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quote: try to remove the situations that would normaly give rise to your smoking

Hmm... no morning coffee, no coffee at all, no alcohol, no sex, no reading books (a strange association yes, but I like to smoke and read), no associating with my flatmate (who smokes), no walking to the shop, no walking anywhere at all, no going to school, no going to the city, no....

shall I continue? That's the kind of deprivation that would make me want to smoke

	03-07-2005 09:13									#59
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5 cigs today for me. I'll probably smoke one more, or not. I smoked 9 yesterday so I'm cutting down. The 4th seems like a good date to quit altogether.

	03-07-2005 10:45									#60
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quote: Originally posted by Dracon II shall I continue? That's the kind of deprivation that would make me want to smoke

That's okay, just lock yourself in a cupboard for 3 weeks.