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http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/intern...l.ap/index.html

Apparently, US has no intention of giving up control over the Internet.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root to the rescue!

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Though hardly surprising. not sure what are the real benefits, though.

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We keep what is ours. Big deal.

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While I do support the idea of making the Internet an international property, historically international regulatory bodies are not effective so I'm not comfortable about transferring the control.

So far Internet seems to be doing just fine where it is, no?

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ICANN is a miserable pile of rhino dung.

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I guess its ICANNT now...


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I'd cautiously positive about this, in the sense that I still trust the United States government FAR, FAR more than any international body you can name (an international body which could and probably would contain extreme left wingers, communists, etc.).

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We need an international panel to oversee the Internet. Knowing how the United Nations operates, panel members would likely include:

China
Iran
France
Venezuela
Zimbabwe

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Don't be silly, we all know Henry van Statten owns the internet.

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I'd cautiously positive about this, in the sense that I still trust the United States government FAR, FAR more than any international body you can name (an international body which could and probably would contain extreme left wingers, communists, etc.).


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The last part was a joke.

Mostly.

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What we really need is an authority that no one minds ceding authority to. If the US keeps losing ground in international affairs, it is just asking for the establishment of renegade root servers and a bifurcating of the internet.

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What we really need is an authority that no one minds ceding authority to. If the US keeps losing ground in international affairs, it is just asking for the establishment of renegade root servers and a bifurcating of the internet.


While that is a worrying possibility, ICANN, as it is set up right now, isn't some organisation you want to trust anyway, if its past actions are any guide.

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I don't see how setting it up as a fully independent body will correct the current shortcomings.

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What we really need is an authority that no one minds ceding authority to. If the US keeps losing ground in international affairs, it is just asking for the establishment of renegade root servers and a bifurcating of the internet.


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Hmm ... actually, I'm a bit surprised China hasn't tried to set up its own miniature version of the Internet, considering the government's penchant for attempting to control the flow of information in and out of that nation.

What's stopping Beijing from doing just that?

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? well, china and korea, among other east asian countries, already sort of do that.

in korea, you can type in hangul internet addresses, and they resolve properly. and, as i understand it, you can sort of do that in china with their characters as well.

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? well, china and korea, among other east asian countries, already sort of do that.

in korea, you can type in hangul internet addresses, and they resolve properly. and, as i understand it, you can sort of do that in china with their characters as well.


Long long time ago when the dotcom craze was in full swing, at least one company came up with the idea of having domain names in Chinese. However that would involve setting up root DNS servers that other DNS servers recognise, and that was not going to happen.

Nowadays I don't think China has done it, either. Not very useful if it only works in China.

The way forward is switch all root servers to Unicode. However I don't know when that will happen. Hell, IPv6 has been around for years and nobody uses it.

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