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The Capo
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of the Baltimorons
May 2000
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Alright, thus far here is the "role call" as far as I know, if there are any problems with this list please make it known in this thread....
Joe - Americans
Capo - Romans
Chris - Russians
Magnus - Ehtiopians
Drake - Incas
Sun Tzu - Chinese
Mika (I believe) - Persians or Indians
With that list we have a pretty nice spread of nations, here is the map to show the starting locations of the tribes, if there is a problem with them, please tell me, E-Mail me at NKreefer@aol.com, or ICQ me at 101832697. If you wanted in this game, and are not included in this prospective list, then contact me as well. I am sure one or more people may not be able to play, or something may go wrong, so that way you are in the runnings.
I will post the map next, cuz I gotta eat.
Peace.
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The Capo
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of the Baltimorons
May 2000
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*BUMP*
So nobody wants any rules changes?
By the way if you read this and are not currently invovled in this diplogame, you could do one of two things:
I am taking ALL suggestions for rules changes, and would greatly appreciate if any veteran diplogamers had some suggestions in that regard.
Or you could petition to get into this game, I am not sure if this roster is set up because nobody has been clarifying themsleves as far as that goes. so there still may be positions available.
Thanks, the Cap'
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"We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."
-Winston Churchill
"Ceterum censo Carthaginem esse delendam"
"Also I think that Carthage must be destroyed"
-Cato the Elder, Roman Statesmen
One Love.
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The Capo
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of the Baltimorons
May 2000
time: 05:12
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Alright, I think we have our first prospective time for this game...
Mondays at 7pm EDT.
So far I know that Joe, Chris and Myself have agreed to this time. Which means that Drake, Sun Tzu, Mika and Magnus have yet to agree on this time.
Again, I want to stress to other people that have expressed interest in this game, there is a chance that we will not be able to agree on a set time, what with two Europeans in the game, and the chance that someone's schedule may not agree with someone esle's, so I want to stress to ANYONE that reads this post, if you want to play in this game please say it because it is by no means set up yet.
Thanks, The Cap'
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"We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."
-Winston Churchill
"Ceterum censo Carthaginem esse delendam"
"Also I think that Carthage must be destroyed"
-Cato the Elder, Roman Statesmen
One Love.
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ml_4da3
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Uppsala, Sweden
May 1999
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I am sorry, but i cannot play at that time. its too late for me.. If we cannot agree about another time, i will not be able to join this game..
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aburtt
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denver, co USA
Jan 1970
time: 05:12
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I would be interested in playing, is a spot still open? Are you playing MGE, or TOT? Any other patches or updates you are using? Thanks,
Adam
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The Capo
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of the Baltimorons
May 2000
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Well there will be a zip file to download for everyone in the game, because there are special flags and units (graphics) that will be added to the game.
We will MOST LIKELY play on Mondays at 7pm, or Wednesdays at 7pm, but 90% we will play on Mondays at 7pm, all times eastern.
You may choose any civilization that has ever existed in the history of this planet, with the exception of one in Europe, Europe is full at this point.
The group suggests a South American, African, or Australian (Oceanic Islands), civilization, but its up to you...
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aburtt
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denver, co USA
Jan 1970
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That sounds good to me. Are the Americans taken? I'll have a tough time making it at 7:00 EST. I should be able to be home by 7:30 though, if that's a problem I understand. Let me know, I look forward to playing.
Adam
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The Capo
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of the Baltimorons
May 2000
time: 05:12
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Okay here is a status report....
We have picked up an Australian player, which has a few repercussions....
With an Australian player we now have space for only one more civ, South America and Africa not being taken by any civs yet. It would actually be preferable that South America is taken by someone for the simple reason that if it isn't taken, the Americas will be boring.
So what's the situation we have, should we make it so that someone has to be South American, or should we just let the chips fall where they may?
I also need more suggestions for rules changes, we have a week before this thing happens on MONDAY THE 15TH, MONDAY THE 15TH, MONDAY THE 15TH. Alright I hope everyone understands this.
Monday, January 15th 2001, at 7pm Eastern Standard Time (U.S.) we begin this Diplogame.
Now there are a few questions:
1) Rules changes?
2) New Units/Tech?
3) Diplogame type rules, such as no war until x b.c./a.d., or no bribing cities unless x, or whatever?
And that's about it, keep in mind that we are looking for ONE MORE PERSON TO PLAY AS PREFERABLY A SOUTH AMERICAN CIV! But African is okay too, just not as good as South American.
Not to mention that ANYONE should feel free to suggest any type of play changes so that this game works out well.
Thanks.
The Cap'
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The Capo
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May 2000
time: 05:12
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Alright, so far this is what I am adding to the game....
I. Units
- Spyplane, 0 attack strong defense, I am thinking of giving them the sub flag so nobody sees them. They will be useful before space flight.
- I am possibly going to grant the Stealth bomber with the sub flag too so its actually ya know, stealth.
- Mobile SAM, I discussed the validity/value of this unit with Chris the other night, the unit's defense will be so that it would be crushed by ground units but would be effective against air units by giving the AEGIS flag. Plus it could be used to secure forts on the front lines as normally a fort would be fair game to any bomber.
- Early Warship, I will make the trerime with an attack of 0 so it doesn't cause unhappiness, I will also try and have an undisturbing transport ship in each "era" so we can trade/"run diplomacy" (snicker) with other nations.
- I am considering offering the Horsemen a slightly better attack value, is anyone against this?
- I am going to make the Crusader non-christian in the sense that it could very well be a Muslim soldier on Jihad as well as a Christian Holy Warrior. So that is only graphical.
- I am considering creating a colonial era infantry unit, Regulars, but Chris said that there would really be no need, thoughts?
- Any other units you want in the game you should bring up here, I want any and ALL suggestions from everyone and anyone.
II. Rules
- I am going to extend the life of the Oracle, I don't know to when yet.
- I suggest that one may only bribe one city per turn, and further, can only bribe cities that are in disorder. Does anyone agree? Let's just say I had a bad experience in Ultradip.
- Shall we set a no war until x date, or is it all up for grabs?
- I am increasing the cost of space ship parts, caravans, diplomats, and whatever else you guys suggest.
- Remember there are *NO* SDI Defenses in this game.
- I am considering decreasing the amount of unhappy citizens caused by a unit in Demo to one, any thoughts on this? I have always thought that the repercussions of a rioting city in Demo is too severe and unrealistic.
- Any thoughts on replacing Fundamentalism/Communism with Facism?
I will post the new flags, starting locale map, and city graphics for the game soon.
Oh yeah, speaking of cities, I can't figure out what cities to give to everyone. I am giving the Romans their classic look (because I am the Romans!!!), the Russians Yanks and Aussies a European look, and then this is where I get confused.
If I give the Aztecs their meso american look, then the Indians and Chinese have to have the same look. I don't like the Indians having an Asian look, but someone suggested an Indonesian style building which could realistically sufice both, but I don't agree with that.
On the same token if I gave the Indians a "Muslim" style, then either the Chinese or the Aztecs would have to adopt that as well, which wouldn't look right at all. OR the Aztecs and Chinese would have the same style, which would be worse than the Indians.
So that's my predicament, people said "Just go with what civ has, Far East for Chinese and Indians, and Bronze Age for the Aztecs" but I would like to use a differing formula, any suggestions?
Thanks again, this game is going to rule.
The Cap'
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aburtt
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denver, co USA
Jan 1970
time: 05:12
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So do you have me down as the Americans? Or do I need to pick a S. American country?
As far as diplo rules, here's my stance. I started the very first diplo game and these are the problems that I encountered..
1. Subs--they must adhere to treaties and agreements that the origional person agreed to. If not this leads to a LOT of problems. And people quitting
2. We found that much of the diplomacy played itself out and didn't need a lot of rules. The world court helped out (the other players) if there was a dispute, however some people wanted revenge which made things interesting.
3. One point of interest, alliances seemed to cause more problems than help. Much like WW I, people went to war that didn't want to or couldn't handle the cost. This was because of alliances, so be careful.
4. Not following traditional timelines made the game very interesting ie. democracies in 1500
5. ICQ is key to these games. It is much easier to hold "court" over ICQ. That way nothing else can take place during times of crisis.
So that's my 2 cents. I hope it helps, I'd be more than happy to tell y'all anything else I learned. The subs rule is key though.
Next Monday it is then? Again, am I the Americans?
Thanks
Adam
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The Capo
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May 2000
time: 05:12
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Alright, well I think we have all seven players again, but I need to know for sure, SO....
If you are in this game, and have told me your tribe already I need you to email me at NKREEFER@aol.com the following:
"I am ________ from Apoltyon, I will be playing as the ________ and understand that this game is to begin Monday January 15th, 2001, at 7pm Eastern Standard time (U.S.). I am confirming that I will play in this game."
Just so there is no cofusion, it is important that you send me this so I know for sure who I have in this game, since we are using a .zip scenario file I must know everyone before a specific date, this Thursday, or you will not be included again...
IF YOU DO NOT SEND THIS MAIL BY THURSDAY, JANUARY 11th, 2001. YOU WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN THIS GAME AND A REPLACEMENT WILL BE FOUND, THERE ARE NO EXCUSES WE WILL PROMPTLY FIND A REPLACEMENT FOR YOU.
If you are interested in replacing someone who does not mail me, please mail me as well at NKREEFER@aol.com, so I can include you quickly, thanks a lot.
The Cap'
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