02-07-2005 17:20									#1
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Robots, androids, cyborgs - Robotics

Truely fascinating area. Will they be the answer to the labour shortages the developed countries are facing in the next decades? Will they take the role of slave labour in our societies where robots do all the dirty and physical work and we only superwise them? Are we soon going to be able to merge human brains with steel torso?

Maybe we are not quite there yet but with this speed of developement, we are surely on the beginning of a new era. The Japanese in particular seem to have focused heavily on developing the first real Android and all kinds of cool service robots such as robocops, robotic securityguards/firefighters, tourist guides, football players etc.

What do you think about all this? Are you anxiously waiting or afraid of what the future brings? Discuss. Perhaps you know some cool websites or news you'd like to share? Anyone else interested about these machines?

Exellent off-site destinations;

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/robots/index.php
http://robots.net/
http://www.onrobo.com/news/index.shtml
http://www.roboticsdaily.com/
http://www.robotcafe.com/
http://www.breakingnewsblog.com/robotics/
http://roboticnation.blogspot.com/
http://asimo.honda.com/news_media_center.asp
http://www.roboticstrends.com/
http://robots.engadget.com/
http://www.aceuplink.com/discussion...hp?showforum=21

Recent threads include;

The Android woman http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...threadid=135885

Last edited by laurentius on 02-07-2005 at 18:43

	02-07-2005 17:26									#2
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quote: The Robot Fuel Cell Powered by Speecys This is the Speecys-FC using the Speecys Compiste Fuel Cell System technology, one of the first robots to use fuel calls as an energy source. It's 50cm tall and weighs 4.2kg, you control it via Wireless LAN (b) and it can move on its two legs. http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_9801.html

Okay, Its not much but its a start.

	02-07-2005 17:28									#3
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quote: Korean RobotCop After Japan, Korea seems to be the Robot country and despite the lack of info on this uPostMate, we know that this is a surveillance robot capable of arresting an individual. To be continued... http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_9797.html

	02-07-2005 17:32									#4
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quote: Vstone and their Robot Football Player !!! The RoboCup 2005 will be held in Osaka, Japan and a company called Vstone presents their robot that will participate today. It plays football and is called RoboVie-V. http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_9791.html

Wow, thats one mean looking bastard.

	02-07-2005 17:35									#5
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quote: Gado robo D1, the security robot Security robots have been around for a few years over here, we even presented a few to you in the past. They usually patrol for large security companies and on big industrial estates. The novelty on this one is that it also acts as a firefighter. http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_9770.html

	02-07-2005 17:36									#6
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Methinks someone should watch Blade Runner again...

	02-07-2005 17:41									#7
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Oh yes its like Casablanca, you can watch it over and over again without getting bored.

	02-07-2005 17:48									#8
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quote: The Japanese are a funny bunch, bless their hearts. They’re hosting the 2005 World Exposition (through Sept. 25) not far from the town renamed for its biggest employer, Toyota, which has a magnificent show at the Expo featuring musician-robots and cars out of Star Wars. They offer a special robot exhibition hall offering a glimpse of a robot-enhanced life in the year 2020. They even suggest that Africa’s problems of famine and overpopulation can be solved by putting a robot in every hut. Just don’t try to get a straight answer as to when, where and for how much you might pick up one of these babies. “These were only done for the show. We don’t know when we will start to sell them, but we are considering starting with robots that would help care for senior citizens,” explained Junnosuke Kambe, a spokesman at the Expo’s Toyota Group Pavilion. Aichi-robo http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/robo...rt-1-110920.php

Very interesting article. Offers a cool glimpse of our robotic future.I can almost hear the 80ties cyberpunks turning in their graves.

	02-07-2005 18:35									#9
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http://www.aceuplink.com/discussion...?showtopic=4083

Even if you have high-speed internet, download the video (instead of simply playing it). It takes a long time to buffer 66MB.

With improvements (substantial, but I've never really been that desperate, either), I suspect this will become the first sexdroid. Remember how porn has helped drive the WWW and then the high-speed internet. Hell, I've known women who mostly twitch when they are on the bottom, so the most basic model may be under a decade off. Now one that can do multiple positions will be alot harder, so to speak.

And you just THINK birth rates have tanked in the industrial world.

	02-07-2005 18:48									#10
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Evil things........even my old wind-up metal micky robot used to give me the shivers. I could almost see my doom in its expression

	02-07-2005 18:52									#11
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Amazing flick shawnmmcc! Maybe...maybe we will see sexabots to satisfy the growing number of geeks and otakus. Nothing wrong with that I guess other than its totally pervert but then again many things are.

I added the couple new links you provided to the list too. Thanks.

	02-07-2005 20:33									#12
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IMHO one of the biggest obstacles to building an android robot is the lack of a decent lightweight battery or power supply.


The big question is though, if we make them smarter than us will they try to eliminate us?

The idea of making robots to care for the elderly has been an idea of mine for years. You'd be amazed at the number of neglected elderly.

	02-07-2005 22:45									#13
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Dr. Stranglove - a sexdroid can have a surreptitious cord. I still maintain that will be one of the first practical applications of humanoid robots - versus industrial units.

	02-07-2005 22:47									#14
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Japan sure has a lot of elderly too. But I think an android even with a limited elderly help skillset is an extremely difficult product to integrate and offer it at a halfway reasonable price. That android that shawn links to is rather primitive.

We're taking baby steps with regard to robots. Just look at the Roomba, etc. It doesn't even do well with s'hag carpets.

Edit: Damn. S'hag is now censored?

	02-07-2005 23:03									#15
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I'm no longer worried about robots taking over the world. Thing is, by the time we develop AI sufficient enough to try and take over the world, we'd also develop a mind-machine interface that would enable us to shapeshift to robots ourselves.

	03-07-2005 05:52									#16
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Very good point. Maybe 100% robots relationship to Cyborgs will be like privates and officers, in army terms. I'm confident that this will be onbe of the key things why we will maintain overall controll.

Threadjack:

NIN - The Becoming

I beat my machine it's a part of me it's inside of me
I'm stuck in this dream it's changing me I am becoming
the me that you know had some second thoughts
he's covered with scabs and he is broken and sore
the me that you know doesn't come around much
that part of me isn't here anymore
all pain disappears it's the nature of my circuitry
drowns out all I hear there's no escape from this my new consciousness
that me that you know used to have feelings
but the blood has stopped pumping and he's left to decay
the me that you know is now made up of wires
and even when I'm right with you I'm so far away
I can try to get away but I’ve strapped myself in
I can try to scratch away the sound in my ears
I can see it killing away all my bad parts
I don't want to listen but it's all too clear

hiding backwards inside of me I feel so unafraid
Annie, hold a little tighter I might just slip away

it won't give up it wants me dead
goddamn this noise inside my head

	03-07-2005 08:16									#17
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The problem with the sexbot would be storage. You cannot hide it from your parents, wife, or friends like you can a dildo or porn. And something tells me it would not exactly be socially acceptable to keep a sexbot in your closet, either.

Then again, it opens up a whole new area of human sexuality for pornographers to exploit. A couple that thought about having a threesome but could not quite overcome jealousy issues? Menage a troit with a robot! And look forward to spam with XXX HOT BLONDE WITH HOTTER ROBOT DICK XXX

Wow. The future scares me.

	03-07-2005 10:30									#18
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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc Remember how porn has helped drive the WWW and then the high-speed internet.

I reckon that the dotcom bubble has more to do with the huge amount of capacity we have than anything else.

	03-07-2005 10:31									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij Methinks someone should watch Blade Runner again...

Oooo. Sean Young at her best.

	03-07-2005 11:24									#20
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quote: Very good point. Maybe 100% robots relationship to Cyborgs will be like privates and officers, in army terms. I'm confident that this will be onbe of the key things why we will maintain overall controll.

Why be so forceful? I am sure AIs will blend into our universe perfectly. If you can be a human male on one day, an intelligent dinosaur on another, and a spaceship on the third, the source of the creation of your entity becomes meaningless over time. It's also oh-so-very marxist, if you really pay attention.

	03-07-2005 12:27									#21
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If might not be socially acceptable to keep your sexdroid in your closet (lending a whole new meaning in the future about being in the closet ) but unless you are married - who cares? I never went through my girlfriends closets - and I'm scared to look in my wife's . I hadn't even thought about it, but a male sexdroid (for women who like to be on top) might even be easier.


Sean Young as an actress. Sean Young in Blade Runner and Shadowlands.

	03-07-2005 12:52									#22
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quote: I never went through my girlfriends closets - and I'm scared to look in my wife's

Shawn, you player!

	03-07-2005 14:00									#23
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Robots will increase unemployment: They are going to replace whores.

	03-07-2005 16:01									#24
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Or, in free market terms, whores will have to offer a "value-added" service.

	03-07-2005 20:37									#25
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I can see some Republican administration finding an excuse to ban the robot sex industry. I have a laissez faire attitude; if your idea of a whore has gears, more power to you.

	03-07-2005 22:13									#26
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Don't get too excited by the prospect of lazy days ahead- most likely the upper classes will decide to let the lower fend for themselves w/o any chance of a job prospect. At some point wiping out the lower classes (with soldier bots, they dont care) to end civil strife and open up new playgrounds to the rich will be put on the table.

	06-07-2005 09:00									#27
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The FlockBots wiki.

Time to get your hands wet, people.

	06-07-2005 09:05									#28
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quote: Originally posted by DerSchwarzfalke The problem with the sexbot would be storage. You cannot hide it from your parents, wife, or friends like you can a dildo or porn. And something tells me it would not exactly be socially acceptable to keep a sexbot in your closet, either.

Nah, that one's easy. It's just little Jimmy's new stereo until he's alone; then it's:

"Transformers! Robots in Disguise!"

	06-07-2005 10:27									#29
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Obviously, a sexbot would be able to do some cooking and cleaning too...

It's as if you guys had never watched any anime. Japanese animators have had all this sorted for years.

	06-07-2005 10:53									#30
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quote: Originally posted by shawnmmcc I hadn't even thought about it, but a male sexdroid (for women who like to be on top) might even be easier.

I'd use to think that the top/bottom problem would be resolved by zero-g space stations, but I guess innovation works in strange and mysterious ways.