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I have to say, besides Lincoln he is possibly the most hated president in American history. Perhaps it is because it is late but I can not think of any president who has ever been hated SO PASSIONATLEY by so many people-not neccesarily a majority of Americans, but I doubt so many people have ever hated a president so much before.


THAT SAID..... I am still completley shocked the man is breathing!

Now that I would put a bullet into him but as far as we know, NO ONE EVEN HAS TRIED!

I am *SHOCKED* that after 6 years of this lunatics mistakes and all th anger he has generated, he has not been assasinated... no one even tried that we know about!

Who else is shocked that almost 6 years later, he is still breathing?

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I completely, thoroughly despise his bigoted beliefs about gays, his deceivements and incompetent mistakes with Iraq, his economic proposals that favor the upper class and corporations, and so forth.


But those who wish to put a bullet to our president has no understanding how a republic democracy works. We decide rulers with ballots, not bullets.

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....unless the supreme court intervines? Come on MrFun, your a smart guy, you know between all the corruption, jerry(sp?) mandering and party politics, Americans really have little to do with our goverment.

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Both of your IP's have been turned over to Homeland Security for terrorist incitation.

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Where did I imply or claim that our government is free of corruption and free of crooked politicians?

I still have memory of the 2000 election but that is a lesser evil than an assassination.

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The reason for this is Cheney is worse.

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Reagan's policies were more repulsive than Bush's.

Bush has the added insurance policy of having Dick Chaney as Vice President. Who'd ever want to give him a promotion?

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LOL Slowwhand.



MrFun, it isn't about someone wanting to kill him for political change... I don't mean an organized group. I mean one really angry citizen taking him out.

I am surprised some really anti bush fanatic has not taken a shot at him by now.

Has there EVER been a president so hated in American history?

Maybe it is because it is late... but I can't think of one.




Reagans policies were worse, but was he as hated? Nope. He didn't involve us in any large military conflicts which are a pre-requisite for the level of rage needed.

I don't even think Nixon was as genuinley hated-his sleeze seemed distant to many people and did not draw actual outrage.

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Wasn't there some guy who ran out onto the white house lawn in early early 2001 and started spraying bullets into the air?

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Yeah there was, mitchell.

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The reason for this is Cheney is worse.




That was ****ing evil, UR.

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The other factor is that gun enthusiasts are disproportionately Republican. To get past the Secret Service you are going to need either a huge amount of luck (individual assassin with a handgun) or you are going to need someone who can hit a man-sized target at I would guess at least 500 yards. That means a gun enthusiast, and one of the largest groups of people who practice that are those who shoot prairie dogs for fun, and the military. Neither group is that likely to produce an assassin going after Bush.

It also may be tempermental. The mindset for a truly successful varmint/bench rest/sniper includes delayed gratification, patience, etc. Those traits are going to make a person more likely to have a successful life, which is inversely proportional to your willingness to face the needle to kill the President, IMHO. So it self-selects, at the same time. Combining both factors makes it an outside probability, especially when you add in the Secret Service.

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LOL Slowwhand.

MrFun, it isn't about someone wanting to kill him for political change... I don't mean an organized group. I mean one really angry citizen taking him out.

I am surprised some really anti bush fanatic has not taken a shot at him by now.

Has there EVER been a president so hated in American history?

Maybe it is because it is late... but I can't think of one.

Reagans policies were worse, but was he as hated? Nope. He didn't involve us in any large military conflicts which are a pre-requisite for the level of rage needed.

I don't even think Nixon was as genuinley hated-his sleeze seemed distant to many people and did not draw actual outrage.


Could someone possibly do it?
When Bush visited Mainz (Germany) the security measures were extremly high. A large area of Mainz (where Bush would pass through) was cordoned off by police and only a few citizens where allowed into the area (of course not the Anti Bush protesters )
People who lived within this area where told not even to stick their head out of the window or they would risk a bullet into the head by Bushs security guards.

Of course I don´t know if the security measures within the USA are the same or if they are stricter iof Bush visits other (hostile ) countries.
In germany it would be futile, even suicidal, to try to shoot Bush

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Copy cat thread.

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no..

but if the two term ammendment is struck down

and it seems possible that voter fraud is going to give him a third term

then I tihnk an attempt would be probable

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There are surely many people who hate him... but it takes more than hatred to attempt an assasination. That takes a maniac or a lunatic, and the number of those is small, no matter how much the current president is loved or hated.

Besides, as it has been said, shooting the president is no easy task. Bush is definitely the most heavily guarded president of USA, so you need to be a very good shooter with a very good rifle to shoot him from afar, because you will not get close to him without getting shot yourself.

Then again, they almost blew Bush up in Georgia...

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quote:
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We decide rulers with ballots, not bullets.


Glad you didn't have dyslexia/typos there.

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THAT SAID..... I am still completley shocked the man is breathing!

We've already determined that Liberals' weapon of choice is a cream pie. While you can kill someone by drowning him in cream, it's rather difficult.

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Now that I would put a bullet into him but as far as we know, NO ONE EVEN HAS TRIED!

We've also already determined that Liberals are anti-American in that they seek to have gun restrictions. They don't believe in guns, since it's against their religion. (Though, personally, I think guns are less the problem and bullets more so. Cease to believe in bullets, and they might not hurt you.)

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Pardon me, but this thread is stupid.

It is however indicative of something, but I'm not gonna tell you what.

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Why would anybody want to assasinate Bush? Even if you think the man is evil enough to warrant such an act, what would you think the backlash would be?

If 911 was able to introduce something as bad as Homeland Security what do you think murdering Bush would do?

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It is however indicative of something, but I'm not gonna tell you what.

Why not?

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If 911 was able to introduce something as bad as Homeland Security what do you think murdering Bush would do?


Actually, it's sad. Surely shooting Bush would provoke a horrible outcry, and so on. But the truth is, he is just one man, and an action that kills many is worse. 9/11 killed three thousand, so it's three thousand times worse than shooting Bush.

Besides, I am of the opinion that Bush isn't even the most important man in the country. Sure he has the power, and everything, but he's not one of those men who are of amazing importance. There are scientists that develop outstanding technologies, and the most brilliant scientists are more important to the country than the president, IMO.

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Somebody tried: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europ...0/bush.georgia/

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This thread is the very definition of wishful thinking

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If 911 was able to introduce something as bad as Homeland Security what do you think murdering Bush would do?
How is Homeland Security in and of itself any worse than MI5?

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MI5 has an Alias-type tv show named after it, whereas Homeland Security does not.

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If 911 was able to introduce something as bad as Homeland Security what do you think murdering Bush would do?


Actually, it's sad. Surely shooting Bush would provoke a horrible outcry, and so on. But the truth is, he is just one man, and an action that kills many is worse. 9/11 killed three thousand, so it's three thousand times worse than shooting Bush.

Besides, I am of the opinion that Bush isn't even the most important man in the country. Sure he has the power, and everything, but he's not one of those men who are of amazing importance. There are scientists that develop outstanding technologies, and the most brilliant scientists are more important to the country than the president, IMO.

Sure, but don't forget that Bush is also THE symbol of


  • The Great Satan

  • Government Oppression

  • Captialism (©Fez)

  • Everything else that's wrong with the world

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How is Homeland Security in and of itself any worse than MI5?

MI5 is British, no? So why do you mention it in a Bush thread?

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That's "The Great Satan™" to you

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I'm still amazed you people didn't get angrier over that "TIPS" scheme.

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Yeah, they seem to give tips to everyone in the US...

 
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