04-07-2005 19:23									#1
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In what was probably a bad idea, I have just read every single Civ4 News item at apolyton all in one go, from the first hints that a new Civ was being worked on in September 2003, to the very latest smidgen of gossip.

I am now unbearably excited and will have to go and lie down for a bit

	04-07-2005 19:48									#2
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and the oaties ate into his brain,..
/pink floyd

quote: what was probably a bad idea

probably?!!

that is certifiable madness.

yes, go lie down. and have a on me!

	04-07-2005 20:01									#3
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I'm so EXCITED!

I just can't hide it....



Civ4 now!

Or later... whatever's best.

But no more info please. I dont wanna raise my expectations too much.

Or not. I'm very easy.

	04-07-2005 20:02									#4
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I'm in a perpetual state of 'excitement' about what we can mod in civ 4.

	04-07-2005 20:12									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker I'm in a perpetual state of 'excitement' about what we can mod in civ 4.

Yes! If it turns out to be the case when the SDK addon is released that we really can create a complete AI player... well... words fail me as to how cool that will be. I can see it now... the first stumbling steps as we work out the basics like how to scout with units; how to place cities intelligently; how to 'diplome'; how to plan tech advancement; how to ATTACK AND KILL MUAHAHAHA

I'm sure somewhere like Apolyton will sort out the necessary infrastructure for AI vs AI contests, which will be fun of course - but just imagine the feeling of pride when the AI you wrote beats a real live person!

	04-07-2005 20:13									#6
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Someone's after Sorens' job, it seems.

	05-07-2005 08:08									#7
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"Diplome"? Is that a George W. Bushism? 'Cause I can't find that word in my dictionary.

Anyway, the AI vs. AI idea sounds like a neat idea to try to encourage people to create the 'perfect AI'. (Or at least a 'better AI'.)

	05-07-2005 14:38									#8
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'Diplome' is from the old old board game Diplomacy in which play alternated between two phases, moving pieces around the board (simultaneous movement of all players' pieces following written orders) and the diplomacy which involved talking to other players and being, well, diplomatic The game is set in Europe and play starts shortly before when WW1 historically happened. So eg you might get the players of England France and Russia deciding to form a triple entente - or maybe something completely different would happen.

It's not an easy game to get into, and it's almost impossible to win, but it's enormous fun if you can find 5 or so like-minded friends to learn it with

Anyway, that's where the verb 'diplome' comes from

	05-07-2005 22:42									#9
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I can't even find other players to play 'Axis & Allies' let alone (the seemingly more complex) 'Diplomacy'. It sounds like a fun game.

I can get people to play 'Risk' though.

	06-07-2005 00:03									#10
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axis & allies by pbem?

I have just have not played in a long time

if so, wana give it a go?

	06-07-2005 01:30									#11
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Maybe at some point, but not now. I've never played anything through e-mail. How do you determine the die rolls?

Player 1: "I just just rolled all 6's again!"
Player 2: "Hey! So did I! What are the odds that we'd roll three hundred 6's in a row?"

	06-07-2005 01:39									#12
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Diplomacy had no die rolls. Nothing was random except the player assignments, and even that was usually done with a (mostly) deterministic algorithm.

	06-07-2005 02:06									#13
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder Someone's after Sorens' job, it seems.

Yep

	06-07-2005 09:42									#14
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quote: Originally posted by LarryLard It's not an easy game to get into, and it's almost impossible to win, but it's enormous fun if you can find 5 or so like-minded friends to learn it with

I wanted to learn ages ago but my old group refused to teach me. I heard that everytime they tried to play fights would break out.

	06-07-2005 12:30									#15
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My excitement for Civ4 is limited. I can't say I await it anxiously. I love, that it is in development and will gladly play it when it comes out. But I would prefer it do be delayed for at least 6 months, maybe a year, in favor of some heavy balancing and bug squashing. I would gladly overpay for a game largely bugfree.

Oh, and weren't it the worms, who ate into his brain?

	06-07-2005 15:21									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 I wanted to learn ages ago but my old group refused to teach me. I heard that everytime they tried to play fights would break out.

I had similar experiences with "Republic of Rome". A game where you have to trust the other players as not to get beaten by the game. Needless to say we got our asses handed to us every time...

	07-07-2005 23:31									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Xorbon Maybe at some point, but not now. I've never played anything through e-mail. How do you determine the die rolls? Player 1: "I just just rolled all 6's again!" Player 2: "Hey! So did I! What are the odds that we'd roll three hundred 6's in a row?"

you don't want to do that for axis and allies

	08-07-2005 06:08									#18
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower you don't want to do that for axis and allies

What? Roll all 6's? Good point!

It would be good in Risk though.

	08-07-2005 20:26									#19
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omfffg!!! #!%~ !!

you played diplomacy?!!

i absolutely loved that game. the back-room deals, the double-crosses. the wounded squeals of the innocent.

ahhh, it was a time of heroes and villians,..

	08-07-2005 20:30									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278 I heard that everytime they tried to play fights would break out.

yes, Yes, YES

quote: I wanted to learn ages ago but my old group refused to teach me.

anytime you feel like some lessons, you can look me up in the nearest

theocratic police state!!!

	08-07-2005 21:02									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph My excitement for large bug is limited. I love squashing, for at least 6 months, maybe a year and will gladly play it when it comes out. I can say I ate worms, ait it anxiously. But I favor some heavy balancing in payment. and Civ4 it is free. I would gladly overdevelop for a gamely bug. that aw't? do be

no. porridge is far more corrosive. i assure you

	09-07-2005 04:51									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Xorbon What? Roll all 6's? Good point! It would be good in Risk though.

I knew someone who played boardgames through the mail back in the 70's. For die rolls they used a random number derived from stock quotes listed in the newspaper (though the exact mechanics elude me at the moment).