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Ogie Oglethorpe is offline Ogie Oglethorpe
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By now everyone has heard the Judith Miller/NYT's saga and whether one believes or not the primacy of complying with grand jury testimonial requirements or the sanctity of journalistic priveledge is paramount is one matter.


I, however, submit this latest go 'round to show the predicted effect of Campaign Finance reform laws (granted they are Washington state laws but McCain Feingold 'prolly will be invoked similarly in next (2006) federal elections unless I miss my mark)



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I have been telling you for a year now that sooner or later the left was going to try to use the courts to muzzle and shut down talk radio. Well, it's happened. It happened in Seattle, Washington. Washington .. you remember Washington in the last election, don't you? There were 3000 more votes cast than there were registered voters in the last election for Governor. One candidate beat another by less than 150 votes. A judge ruled the election was legitimate. Oh well.

Here's what happened. Washington recently enacted a 9.5-cent-per-gallon tax hike on gasoline. Two talk show hosts on Seattle's KVI were promoting Initiative 912 for the next election ballot in Washington. I-912 would repeal that gas tax hike. The pro-tax crowd didn't like it one little bit that these two talk show hosts were speaking out against their tax hike, so they filed a complaint and went to the judge. Last Friday Judge Christopher Wickham ruled that KVI must report the commercial value of any time these two talk show hosts spend talking about I-912 as an in-kind political contribution. This, of course, shuts down these two hosts. This effectively ends any conversation on the matter on John Carlson's and Kirby Wilbur's talk show.

This is just the beginning. Now that they have a success under their belts the left will move to expand their victory ... but timing will be crucial. If I was planning strategy for the left on this one I would tell them to wait until just before the 2008 presidential election before they try to use the campaign finance reform act, and this Seattle precedent, to shut down political talk radio. If they were to make their move any earlier they would run the risk of the Republican Congress passing some revisions to the campaign finance reform act to thwart their scheme.

And please ... just please ... don't tell me that the U.S. Supreme Court will rush in to protect First Amendment free speech rights here. Which Supreme Court are you talking about? The Supreme Court that ruled the campaign finance reform act constitutional in the first place? The same Supreme Court that virtually destroyed the concept of private property rights just a few weeks ago? That Supreme Court? Give me a break.

Now .. before we move on here, one reminder. Though this ruling from Washington state was based on state campaign finance reform laws ... those laws are very much like the McCain Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Act that was passed by a Republican House of Representatives and a Republican Senate. It was then signed into law by a Republican President. This Washington decision will only embolden those who want to use McCain Feingold to shut down talk radio. Aren't we all just so proud of our elected Republicans right now?



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Why do you read such crappy propaganda?

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Assuming there is any reality to the story, all the the radio station would have to do to avoid campaign finace rules is to create a news (rather than entertainment) segment to dicsuss such matters.

Ogie Oglethorpe is offline Ogie Oglethorpe
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Why do you read such crappy propaganda?


The irony of this statement is so over the top that it is almost beneath me to point it out.

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Of course the right would never attempt something like that if it was successful...

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"I have been telling you for a year now that sooner or later the left . . . . ."


I stopped reading at this point, as I don't find anti-liberal bashing hysteria very interesting.

Ogie Oglethorpe is offline Ogie Oglethorpe
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Damn you missed the Republican bashing at the end then.

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Some of the anti-conservative bashing doesn't make sense either when the attacker is foaming at the mouth.

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Damn, i should have left this thred die the excrable death it merits instead of posting in it....

Ogie Oglethorpe is offline Ogie Oglethorpe
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Thanks for the bump.

Ogie Oglethorpe is offline Ogie Oglethorpe
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Of course the right would never attempt something like that if it was successful...


Thats kind of the point that either side could.

NPR and Air America are equally likely targets.

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The point of the OP is that Talk Radio is in some kind of danger. No one is biting.

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