09-07-2005 01:19									#1
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Well.. it was so small I'm embarrased to say it out loud so I'll leave it a mystery. Let's just say it's enough for me to eat for a week in the work cafeteria, or buy a case of beer and few packs of smokes every month as extra. So.. it's still cool. It's more of the thought though.. I was glad to find out, since I'm only summer trainee, and I've been there like 6 weeks and the boss said he likes to give raise to few trainees every summer and I was one of them!!11.. My work has been recognized! It's not much but.. it's something and I'm glad I was notified. Makes me feel important as hell. Yeah.. more important than mustard. But that's better than less important than mustard.

Mustard

	09-07-2005 01:29									#2
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	09-07-2005 01:34									#3
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I got a miniscule raise as well today. Happy Friday all round.



Ninot - Why you boycotting Timmies?

	09-07-2005 01:41									#4
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Wezil, nice

If I got that raise after working a year, I'd be insulted prolly.. but since I haven't even really been there that long, it was nice surprise and I wasn't expecting for it at all, since I'm only summer trainee. And then the boss just asked me to see him and I was like damn what have I screwed up now, I'm getting a warning or something but we just talked and he was in a good mood, asking how I felt things were going and if I had any questions or anything I wanted to talk about, and after we talked he said well one other thing, you just got a raise.

Cool stuff, the psychological side was the important one, to be noticed in such massive place and so soon.. yeah. Good stuff. Also it was nice because he is a boss of many many people and he called me by my first name, so that was cool too. Newbies in there are not usually called by their first name by their bosses.. so it was cool.

	09-07-2005 01:47									#5
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Feeling appreciated at work is important. As with you, this was better than the actual financial plus.

	09-07-2005 01:50									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Wezil Ninot - Why you boycotting Timmies?

Some of their franchises in Montreal have a 20 minutes and out policy.

Eat and drink whatever you ordered in 20 minutes, and then they kick you out.

I understand the reasoning (too busy during rush hour to have people sitting around for an hour), but I think its a horrible policy that puts the almighty dollar first and the customer second, and as someone in the restaurant business I'd never agree to it

	09-07-2005 01:51									#7
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Yes.. the financial bonus wasn't that .. noticable . But it was enough for me to feel appreciated. I wasn't even looking for that much, I was just looking to do my job, get my foot in and hopefully stabilize my position in there in the future and go as far as possible.. like I now totally expect to get there next summer as well, but the question is if I can be at higher level then, have better position. That's my goal. And the next year.. I hope to possibly do my thesis for them, if it's cool, then possibly get permanent position in a good level and actually start getting paid at the level I'd really like. So these are just the first steps and I was glad I was noticed in the thing I now do. It means that at least I don't suck at it and that someone has paid attention and thought about it and now it's done. Yeah.. the feelign of advancing

Oh and this is my first raise in my life too.

	09-07-2005 02:05									#8
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Agreed, that the recognition is great thing, and most managers seem to forget that. They can never give you enough money, but there are ways to make people feel appreciated that won't destroy a budget.

Congrats

	09-07-2005 02:06									#9
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And what do you have to accept for this ? A little buttock slapping from time to time from the female staff ?

	09-07-2005 02:14									#10
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Smoking

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Nonsmokers - fanatic ditto

	09-07-2005 02:29									#12
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You da man Pekka

	09-07-2005 03:54									#13
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quote: Originally posted by rah but there are ways to make people feel appreciated that won't destroy a budget.

... like smack them on the ass?

	09-07-2005 05:34									#14
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You know, I read two articles that made me ponder. One article stating that psychopathy might be genetic, implying that there's a evolutionary advantage to it.

And another article stating that there's a relatively higher incidence of psychopathy amongst managers.

	09-07-2005 05:46									#15
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The cynical part of me says that managers give their employees little pats on the back - rather than substantial raises - just to keep them happy so they don't notice the crappy hours, insulting pay, and shitty work environment.

But I'm not entirely cynical. I'd really wish my managers would stop saying, "Oh thank you for staying late Ben we really appreciate it you dont know how much this means youre an extremely valued employee please dont quit" and actually give me a raise, though.

	09-07-2005 05:52									#16
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Just state at your next discussion about payment that you are not paid what you are worth.

	09-07-2005 05:56									#17
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They couldn't afford to pay me what I'm worth. I am a god amongst insects. Or something. A god amongst insects... who makes sure fat ladies can get a copy of the latest Celebrity Living and fat men can get a copy of the latest Playboy.

	11-07-2005 02:12									#18
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quote: Originally posted by rah Agreed, that the recognition is great thing, and most managers seem to forget that. They can never give you enough money, but there are ways to make people feel appreciated that won't destroy a budget.

All you supervisors and managers out there: Listen to the Wisdom of rah!

	11-07-2005 02:18									#19
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quote: Originally posted by rah Agreed, that the recognition is great thing, and most managers seem to forget that. They can never give you enough money, but there are ways to make people feel appreciated that won't destroy a budget. Congrats

But money is a good start

	11-07-2005 04:03									#20
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When I read the thread title I thought Pekka was proudly referring to the first erection in his life...

	11-07-2005 04:11									#21
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Yeah, perhaps it was Diss's thread that gave him the idea

	11-07-2005 11:12									#22
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quote: Eat and drink whatever you ordered in 20 minutes, and then they kick you out.

i think we should take bets on when they will close down....

	11-07-2005 14:14									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Ninot Some of their franchises in Montreal have a 20 minutes and out policy. Eat and drink whatever you ordered in 20 minutes, and then they kick you out. I understand the reasoning (too busy during rush hour to have people sitting around for an hour), but I think its a horrible policy that puts the almighty dollar first and the customer second, and as someone in the restaurant business I'd never agree to it

That is taking fast food to new lengths. I would not go in a place if they put that kind of limitation on the time I take to eat...

	11-07-2005 18:34									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Ninot Some of their franchises in Montreal have a 20 minutes and out policy. Eat and drink whatever you ordered in 20 minutes, and then they kick you out. I understand the reasoning (too busy during rush hour to have people sitting around for an hour), but I think its a horrible policy that puts the almighty dollar first and the customer second, and as someone in the restaurant business I'd never agree to it

I see. I'm a smoker so I never go in to the store anyway but I had a similar experience with Harvey's years ago. It is annoying.

	11-07-2005 18:41									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison That is taking fast food to new lengths. I would not go in a place if they put that kind of limitation on the time I take to eat...

quote: i think we should take bets on when they will close down....

For the record, Tim Hortons is mainly just a donut shop.

	11-07-2005 18:43									#26
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd For the record, Tim Hortons is mainly just a donut shop.

Yeah, but they do try to make themselves into more than that.

Tim Hortons

	11-07-2005 19:30									#27
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd For the record, Tim Hortons is mainly just a donut shop.

Not any more. I defy you to try get a coffee and donut in a timely fashion at Timmies these days. It reminds me of the Denis Leary bit about the donuts in display cases: "This is what we used to sell..."

	11-07-2005 19:35									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison But money is a good start

Yes money is always best, but it's sometimes not available. When it's not, more creativity and effort is necessary.

	11-07-2005 19:47									#29
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I wasn't due for a raise but the firm reorganized and job duties were shifted somewhat. I'm not doing any more work than before, just different work. Since my duties changed so did my pay.