26-08-2005 01:34									#421
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Some good news for Newcastle, we've agreed with Deportivo la Coruna from a 10 million pound fee for Luque!

Hey, a player who can score...

	26-08-2005 02:12									#422
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Will he though?

It'd be rubbish supporting a team who never let you down.

	26-08-2005 05:56									#423
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Day has gone and went. No deal signed with Owen. Seems like he'd rather see European football, even if its on a bench... or Liverpool, who don't want him.

Oh well... maybe Souness will use some of that 15 mil to get Boa Morte and a LB.

	26-08-2005 06:04									#424
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I think Liverpool want him, Benetiez doesn't though. I think he's afraid his presence dictates a certain style of play that he's trying to get away from.

Why the hell Arsenal don't sign him I don't know? Fair go, Henry got 2 last night, but normally he's picking the ball up 20 yards out and having to wait for the midfield to get into the box. Him and Owen would be a cracking partnership.

	26-08-2005 06:06									#425
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quote: I think Liverpool want him, Benetiez doesn't though. I think he's afraid his presence dictates a certain style of play that he's trying to get away from.

AH, good distinction! The Board want him... he'll sell a TON of shirts for one. Benitez, who has final say, doesn't. Owen is more of a traditional English player who thrives more on the long ball than the European build up the attack style.

quote: Why the hell Arsenal don't sign him I don't know?

Short on cash?

	26-08-2005 06:06									#426
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It does seem weird that you have a striker at the peak of his powers and no one wants to touch him with a bargepole...

	26-08-2005 06:07									#427
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Not just any striker either, a striker who starts for his national squad, which happens to be a top 10 football squad in the world.

	26-08-2005 06:10									#428
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13 goals in 20 starts at Real - is everyone blind!?

	26-08-2005 06:13									#429
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Well, I can see a club like ManU not wanting him (which player goes to the bench?). But Arsenal? Bergkamp is getting up in years. And Everton did try, but Owen turned them down.

	26-08-2005 06:23									#430
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I was speaking to a "man in the know" at Old Trafford and he reckons that there is absolutey no money for new player. Take that with a pinch of salt, but ManU have been a bit quiet on the transfer front.

Everton, well.....thats an easy one, maybe when his kness have gone and he's the wrong side of 35!

	26-08-2005 06:37									#431
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Well, I can see a club like ManU not wanting him (which player goes to the bench?). But Arsenal? Bergkamp is getting up in years. And Everton did try, but Owen turned them down.

Would Real sell him to a club that might be a threat in the CL?

That's what I was thinking.

	26-08-2005 06:38									#432
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quote: I was speaking to a "man in the know" at Old Trafford and he reckons that there is absolutey no money for new player. Take that with a pinch of salt, but ManU have been a bit quiet on the transfer front.

I can see it because of the massive debt they got.

quote: Would Real sell him to a club that might be a threat in the CL? That's what I was thinking.

Perhaps, but you haven't heard anything from ManU or Arsenal or anyone else saying they'd like to have him or something. I'd imagine something would leak to the media.

	27-08-2005 02:45									#433
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Oh God! not another piece of major European silverwear?

It'll have to go in the west wing of the trophy mansion, there might *JUST* be room for it.......

	27-08-2005 02:51									#434
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Bit of a meaningless one though, don't you think reds4ever?

	27-08-2005 02:54									#435
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quote: Originally posted by Cort Haus Bit of a meaningless one though, don't you think reds4ever?

it would have been a "meaningless friendly" if we had lost.

We won so it' a "piece of major European silverwear"

	27-08-2005 03:30									#436
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever [A] piece of major European silverwear?

Well done though, but why didn't you have Cisse from the start?

(sorry, no accents on my laptop. )

	27-08-2005 03:42									#437
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I really don't know why Cisse wasn't playing from the start, a bigger puzzle was why Pongolle was the first striker brought on as a sub.

Players like Cisse give a team the ability to be on the defensive one moment and in the opponents penalty area the next. Even if they don't score, it still forces the other side to allow for the possibility.

Unless we get a good winger we may as well sell Nando and give Cisse and Owen a go for six months, if it doesn't work out then make the choice then. Theres no need now.

Not a bad return for four years though, 2 European Super Cups, a UEFA and a Champoins League! I won't go into the domestic honours..........

	27-08-2005 03:48									#438
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What!!! You're not going to mention the Mickey Mouse cup??!!

	27-08-2005 03:48									#439
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You forgot the FA Cup against Arsenal - or was that more than 4 years ago?

You don't need a link player with the midfielders that Liverpool have. Two centre-forwards would make much more sense. Why use Morienrtes when you've got either Gerrard, Alonso or Garcia making breaks forward all the time?

	27-08-2005 04:01									#440
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york You forgot the FA Cup against Arsenal - or was that more than 4 years ago? You don't need a link player with the midfielders that Liverpool have. Two centre-forwards would make much more sense. Why use Morienrtes when you've got either Gerrard, Alonso or Garcia making breaks forward all the time?

I agree, two fast strikers (Owen, Cisse) make more sense than the current setup.

I did'n't forget about the FA cup (or the Charity Shield), I just don't like to gloat!

err.....or the two League Cups

	27-08-2005 04:02									#441
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quote: Originally posted by alva What!!! You're not going to mention the Mickey Mouse cup??!!

Modesty forbids dear boy!

	27-08-2005 04:04									#442
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Are you referring to the Joca Cola Cup here?

	27-08-2005 04:05									#443
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The rumor is that Souness is offering Feyenoord 12 million pounds for Kuijt. It would be amazing if we could get two strikers this week... but that means that we most definetly won't.

	27-08-2005 04:13									#444
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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Are you referring to the Joca Cola Cup here?

I'm a traditionalist

It's all relative really, on current form you could make a case for the Premiership being 'Mickey Mouse' for Liverpool..we're just operating at a different level these days!

	27-08-2005 04:14									#445
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Don't be ridiculous - we can barely afford one decent forward. I'd love it (memories anyone ) if Spurs bought Kuyt and we could get Defoe.

	27-08-2005 04:24									#446
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Apparently the Spurs are hitting a snag with Feyenoord. They want more money. We are, somehow amazingly, willing to overpay for forwards at this juncture. Who took over the body of Fat Freddie anyway?

	27-08-2005 04:26									#447
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Not a bad return for four years though, 2 European Super Cups, a UEFA and a Champoins League! I won't go into the domestic honours..........

No, the domestic honours are not very impressive, but competing regularly in the UEFA cup is a not something to be over-proud of either.

	27-08-2005 04:28									#448
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Apparently the Spurs are hitting a snag with Feyenoord. They want more money. We are, somehow amazingly, willing to overpay for forwards at this juncture. Who took over the body of Fat Freddie anyway?

I'd guess it's even apparent to a tight arse like Fat Fred that you need strikers.

Clubs like Spurs and Newcastle will be viewing the 3rd and 4th places as 'gettable' (or should be!), and buying as such.

	27-08-2005 04:31									#449
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quote: Originally posted by Cort Haus No, the domestic honours are not very impressive, but competing regularly in the UEFA cup is a not something to be over-proud of either.

I agree, we must improve our trophy haul.....

Our CL record is pretty good (once we manage to get in it!) over the last few years.

	27-08-2005 04:33									#450
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quote: I'd guess it's even apparent to a tight arse like Fat Fred that you need strikers.

Yeah, it only took two relegation-like performances in a row (not like we were expected to do that great against Arsenal - so it doesn't count).