21-08-2005 14:10									#361
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui I wonder if Souness will get off his ass and get a striker NOW? I'm having doubts we'll score a single goal this seasoN!!

Just watched the highlights this morning, if Souness isnt gone before christmas ill be surprised, he looks ready to go.

I heard him on a SKY interview saying he wouldnt sign a player unless he was world class, and if they didnt get anyone, so be it. What a tard.

Spurs of course top of the league. If Jol can get Kuyt from Feyenoord and not overspend on Jenas, it could be our best season for a long time.

	21-08-2005 14:58									#362
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I like the look of Spurs. Once Davids and Carrick gel and King comes back (and maybe Jenas in front of them) they're going to be a big hassle to break down. Defoe is looking sharp too. I think they'll push liverpool for 4th place and the way things look now I'd say it's 60:40 that Spurs will finish above Liverpool.

Another team that's looking quite good is Charlton. Now i know they've played promotion teams, but their midfield looks a lot more solid with Smertin in there, and bent looks like a bargain.

	21-08-2005 15:20									#363
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No one be posting the Arse Vs Chelsea score, you hear!!
I wanne enjoy MotD this evening.

* makes mental note not to zap to BBC1, BBC2 and many other stations until 23.30 *

edit:
Woot!! I can the see whole game!!! (30 min delay and bad commentary but who cares !!).

Last edited by alva on 21-08-2005 at 15:29

	21-08-2005 17:25									#364
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quote: Originally posted by lightblue I like the look of Spurs. Once Davids and Carrick gel and King comes back (and maybe Jenas in front of them) they're going to be a big hassle to break down. Defoe is looking sharp too. I think they'll push liverpool for 4th place and the way things look now I'd say it's 60:40 that Spurs will finish above Liverpool.

I wouldnt go that far, 5th wouldnt flatter us though, and if we live up to half the hype (and avoid injuries) we should make it.

	21-08-2005 20:00									#365
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quote: Originally posted by lightblue I think they'll push liverpool for 4th place and the way things look now I'd say it's 60:40 that Spurs will finish above Liverpool.

I'll give you those odds if you fancy a flutter.

	22-08-2005 08:54									#366
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quote: Originally posted by lightblue Apparently you're going for Luque. He's decent i think, always quite good ni the Champ Manager games, and a Spanish national team regular in RL

I've heard that rumor. It'd be nice, frankly. I have a feeling that the squad we got right now is going to our squad at the end of the transfer session. If we somehow manage not to lowball Deportiva for Luque, it'd be a welcome addition, though I wonder then which of the 5 man midfield would be taking a seat.

I also don't think Jenas is going anywhere. I know that Newcastle isn't going to take anything less than 10 million pounds, if straight cash. There is talk for a player for player deal plus cash... the papers are saying for Keane and 6 million pounds, but I just don't see it.

	22-08-2005 14:08									#367
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Well Souness is the favourite to lose his job the first. Who knows what you'll get in place? The return of King Kev?

	22-08-2005 14:31									#368
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Has Shearer said he isnt interested in management? I hope so.

	22-08-2005 14:51									#369
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Nah, he's being groomed as Newcastle's next manager.

Spurs look excellent at the moment. Davids had a blinder.

Some great goals as well, most of all Drogba's exquisite knee.

	22-08-2005 14:57									#370
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Some great goals as well, most of all Drogba's exquisite knee.

That was such a fluke.

I wonder what will happen to Chelsea when Mr Oil Baron loses interest...

	22-08-2005 15:17									#371
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i think chelsea have used up their supply of luck for this season in the first two games :/

	22-08-2005 15:21									#372
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It was a bit lucky but as Wenger said it was bad defending because he shouldn't have been allowed to get into that position in the first place to get lucky.

Not as convincing as the win in the Charity Shield but Arsenal didn't really have a chance all game either. Henry was rubbish.

2 games, 6 points, that's all that matters.

	22-08-2005 15:48									#373
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH 2 games, 6 points, that's all that matters.

If it was getting towards the end of the season then I'd agree with you, points are the be all and end all.

But form *DOES* matter this early on, if you havn't got it your luck will run out and you'll drop points.

	22-08-2005 15:51									#374
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We started last season relatively poorly too, had a lot of 1-0 wins and in the end we ended up scoring nearly as many league goals as Arsenal.

Since Chelsea raised the bar last season you can barely afford to draw a game, let alone lose one at any time in the season.

	22-08-2005 15:57									#375
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Abramovich raised the bar, not Chelsea!

;O)

	22-08-2005 16:11									#376
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Football's littered with teams that tried to buy titles and failed. Look at Lazio's history.

	22-08-2005 16:32									#377
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...and Blackburns....?

	22-08-2005 16:38									#378
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And some teams can do it, Blackburn, ManU etc.

Anyway, 1-0 home win against Arsenal is a much better result than a 1-0 home win against "Premiership Whipping Boys" Sunderland.

	22-08-2005 16:47									#379
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Oh, you got 4 points for that win? Well they say money talks......

	22-08-2005 17:10									#380
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH And some teams can do it, Blackburn, ManU etc.

"etc" = Chelsea?

	22-08-2005 17:42									#381
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Oh, you got 4 points for that win? Well they say money talks......

Weren't you saying a few posts back that form matters? What happened? Tossed out the window when your favorite team is being analyzed?

	22-08-2005 18:04									#382
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Don't flatter Mikes ramblings with the word "analyzed".

Form does matter, I just don't see that winning a home game we were expected to win is a bad thing....?

If you want to talk "form", we played *FAR* better the week before away to Boro and only came away with a point. Our points total is more than justified by our form, Chelseas isn't.

	22-08-2005 18:14									#383
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quote: I just don't see that winning a home game we were expected to win is a bad thing....?

And beating Arsenal is a bad thing?

quote: If you want to talk "form", we played *FAR* better the week before away to Boro and only came away with a point. Our points total is more than justified by our form, Chelseas isn't.

Chelsea also has to get all its new parts (SWP, Crespo, Essien) integrated into the lineup. They went through the same thing last season. Once everyone is comfortable, they'll show proper form.

	22-08-2005 18:15									#384
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Weren't you saying a few posts back that form matters? What happened? Tossed out the window when your favorite team is being analyzed?

The more I read your post the less it makes sense. I havn't contradicated myself anywhere.

Chelsea get an undeserved 3 pts
Mike says the points are all that matter
I disagree and say form is important
Mike says Chelseas win is "better" than Liverpools
I point out that you can't do anymore than win and get the 3 pts, no mention of "form"

Where have I contradicted myself over Liverpools form? Weve played two games dominated them both, drawn one and won the other?

	22-08-2005 18:21									#385
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui And beating Arsenal is a bad thing?

Very poor Imran, and very naughty. Where have I said that beating Arsenal was a bad thing?

	22-08-2005 18:24									#386
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Well you say form is important and then turn around and say, well you can't do anymore than win and get 3 points. It's a valid counter argument for your 'form matters' argument.

	22-08-2005 18:25									#387
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quote: Originally posted by reds4ever Very poor Imran, and very naughty. Where have I said that beating Arsenal was a bad thing?

It follows from your strange idea that MikeH was saying that beating Sunderland was a bad thing. Basically MikeH can say the exact same thing to you when you criticize Chelsea's play.

	22-08-2005 18:37									#388
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"it follows" that you are putting words in my mouth Imran. Stop it.

The Arsenal (and Wigan) game was a good result, but if I were a Chelsea fan I'd be (other than a noisy southern nonce) conerned about the manner of those victories. Mike isn't. The reason I'm happy about the Sunderland result is that we won AND played well.

	22-08-2005 19:10									#389
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Yeah, but "you can't do anymore than win and get the 3 pts". Furthermore, Chelsea and Arsenal both had the same number of shots, but Chelsea had more on goal. They also had 51% of possession. Where is this horrid form I hear about?

And from Soccernet's article, at least, it seems that Liverpool put together an altogether disappointing performance. Even though they had all the shots and possession, seemingly Sunderland put on a defensive show when Liverpool should have put them away.

I'm not putting any words in your mouth really, just pointing out how you aren't making too much sense .

	22-08-2005 19:49									#390
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui And from Soccernet's article, at least, it seems that Liverpool put together an altogether disappointing performance. Even though they had all the shots and possession.

Well who am I do argue with double talk like that

I hope we have many more disappointing performances with all the shots and possession