11-07-2005 23:57									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Winston 10-20%, mostly leftists. And they'll be on and on about the unfairness of it all. Satan will never hear the end of it.

Exactly the opposite (20% rightists). But they'll like Satan.

	12-07-2005 00:50									#32
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Divide 10 by 0. It is a value of non existance.


The value of 10/0 is a value of non existance.

Is the value of 10/0, identical to a set of values, the set being 0 to 10?

No, it has the values 1 through 10, none of which are equal to a non existant value-they exist.


0 is NOT equal to a non existant value for the same reason as the ones above, 0 is a defined value, 10/0 is not.

10/0 != 0

YEY FOR MATH!


0-10% is not the same as no hell. It is the same of, at best, an unpopulated hell.

	12-07-2005 00:52									#33
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100%.

Because nobody's good enough to get into heaven.

We might get into purgatory if we're phenomenally lucky, if we're not slated for reincarnation or oblivion.

Then again, purgatory is just hell with an end date, oblivion's just the hell of non-existence, and reincarnation is the hell of doing this **** all over again.

Hell

	12-07-2005 00:59									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen blah blah blah

Jump up your butt.

	12-07-2005 01:03									#35
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quote: Originally posted by loinburger I'm an idiot

I'm sorry your stupid, that really is more of a problem on your end then mine but lucky to you i'm sympathetic and i'll help.

I can fix that problem with education but only if you listen... or if you sign a paper allowing me to surgerically force you to listen.

	12-07-2005 01:16									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller 100% deserve to go to hell I think the actual percentage will be lower.. JM

Maybe, but how can 100% deserve to be there forever with only a finite life span in which to have built up guilt? Only a finite amount of punishment can be earned in a finite period of time.

Christianity's insistance on everbody deserving eternal punishment has always been the part that makes the least sense to me.

	12-07-2005 01:19									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen Divide 10 by 0. It is a value of non existance. The value of 10/0 is a value of non existance. Is the value of 10/0, identical to a set of values, the set being 0 to 10? No, it has the values 1 through 10, none of which are equal to a non existant value-they exist. 0 is NOT equal to a non existant value for the same reason as the ones above, 0 is a defined value, 10/0 is not. 10/0 != 0 YEY FOR MATH! 0-10% is not the same as no hell. It is the same of, at best, an unpopulated hell.

Your ability to form highly compactified bovine faeces is impressive.

	12-07-2005 01:22									#38
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100% - We're already there my friends.

	12-07-2005 01:26									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Geronimo Maybe, but how can 100% deserve to be there forever with only a finite life span in which to have built up guilt? Only a finite amount of punishment can be earned in a finite period of time. Christianity's insistance on everbody deserving eternal punishment has always been the part that makes the least sense to me.

as I said

I dont' beleive in a place of eternal punishment

what I mean by 100% deserve hell, is that 100% deserve the opposite of heaven

which is eternal nothingness

JM

	12-07-2005 01:27									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Wezil 100% - We're already there my friends.

I agree, if there is anything that can be called hell, it is probably this earth

what the alternate eternal afterlife to heaven is, is eternal nonexistence..

Jon Miller

	12-07-2005 01:27									#41
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@ Vesayen

	12-07-2005 01:37									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller I agree, if there is anything that can be called hell, it is probably this earth Jon Miller

Actually I was referring to 'Poly, but we'll go with yours.

	12-07-2005 04:59									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi I think there will be more 'sinners' in heaven then nice people.

I never said my thoughts were compatible with any hierarchical religionista organization.

	12-07-2005 09:11									#44
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quote: Only a finite amount of punishment can be earned in a finite period of time. Christianity's insistance on everbody deserving eternal punishment has always been the part that makes the least sense to me.

That's one of the more radical things, and is why our time here on earth is so valuable. The fact that we have an eternal reward in heaven, as opposed to our short time here on earth, should remind people as to what is truly important.

Secondly, it isn't a matter of earning punishment, one would think one would earn our heavenly reward, but that is not the case. The heavenly reward is a free gift of God, and as such, we cannot earn it through our works here on earth.

Therefore, if it is God who determines our eternal fate, then this is more important than our sins. He can forgive us our sins, if we are willing to love him as he loves us.

	12-07-2005 12:40									#45
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I would honestly prefer nonexistance over eternal bliss in heaven.

	12-07-2005 14:39									#46
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I'm glad I'm not a muslim heaven is full of virgins, thats no fun at all.

	13-07-2005 05:06									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Bill3000 I would honestly prefer nonexistance over eternal bliss in heaven.

is it because you don't like bliss or because you doubt that the eternal bliss would actually be blissful?

I wouldn't mind eternal bliss anywhere but I rather doubt there is anyplace, including Heaven, where it can be had.

	13-07-2005 09:27									#48
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I'd prefer immortality here then eternal bliss .

I'd like my actions to have meaning.

Everything is meaningless in an after life.