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WASHINGTON, DC—President Bush delighted an intimate gathering of White House dinner guests Monday, regaling the coterie of dignitaries, artists, and friends with a spirited, off-the-cuff discussion of the Roman poet Virgil's lesser-known works.

"Ah, W. was in top form tonight," Spanish foreign minister Josep Pique Camps said. "We were all held captive by his erudition and charm. First, a brief history of the opium trade, then a bit of Brahms on the piano, then a rousing discussion of Virgil. That boy is a wonder, isn't he?"

According to guests, the subject of Virgil arose serendipitously, when a servant opened a window in the Red Room, to which the group had retired for after-dinner drinks. Noticing the breeze, Bush raised his glass and delivered a toast to the changing of the seasons. He then apologized to "lovely Winter," explaining that he "meant no slight against her."

"The first blush of Spring always reminds me of Virgil's words," Bush said. "In early spring-tide, when the icy drip / Melts from the mountains hoar, and Zephyr's breath / Unbinds the crumbling clod, even then 'tis time / Press deep your plough behind the groaning ox / And teach the furrow-burnished share to shine."

"Book One of The Georgics, of course," Bush added.

Bush arranged the small, informal dinner in honor of Camps' unexpected arrival in America.

"It had been too long since I'd heard one of W.'s anecdotes, so I simply got on a plane," Camps said. "I showed up at his doorstep with a watercolor by Ignat Bednarik, whom I know he adores, just to make sure he'd let me in."

Bush confessed that he has "long held a fascination with the classical world," noting that his love of Roman history influenced his decision to enter politics.

"Virgil was born in the year 70 B.C.—let's see, that would be during the consulship of Gnaeus Pompeius The Great and Marcus Licinius Crassus, if I'm not mistaken," Bush said. "It is said that while Virgil's mother was with child, she dreamt she gave birth to a laurel branch, which, upon touching the ground, sprang up into a full-grown tree, its branches laden with ripe fruits and flowers. The next morning, she gave birth to Virgil. The legend goes that Virgil was born without crying, so mild was his countenance."

According to White House regulars, it is not uncommon for Bush to engage guests in discussions of whatever subject strikes his fancy, from the symphony playing in the background to the history of a style of jewelry a guest happens to be wearing.

"I love to hear George hold court on this or that," said Bush family friend and world-renowned physicist Norberta Münter. "I tell him he is such a spoiled brat, the way he demands our attention, but I must confess I can't take my eyes off him when he does."

As the group sipped apple martinis and, in Bush's words, "recovered" from the Chilean sea bass, the president continued.

"Most primarily associate Publius Vergilius Maro with The Aeneid," Bush told guests. "Yet so much pleasure is to be found in his lesser-known works—The Eclogues, completed in 37 B.C., and The Georgics, in 30 B.C., both of which praise the idyllic rural life."

"You have to remember I'm a bit of a farm boy myself," chuckled Bush, referring to his 1,600-acre ranch in Crawford, TX.

"The Bucolics are my personal favorite," Bush said. "They were basically a thank-you to Asinius Pollio for preventing the seizure of Virgil's land by the Triumvirate when they ordered the lands on the far banks of the river Po distributed to veterans of the victory at Philippi. They are so sublime, so inspirational. But why should I speak, when Virgil can do so himself? And far more eloquently, I might add."

Bush then recited a selection from The Bucolics in the original Latin, pausing occasionally to translate into French out of respect for his friend Amélie du Maurier, a young Parisian concert violinist in attendance. Earlier in the evening, a blushing du Maurier admitted to Bush that she did not know Latin. Bush eased the young woman's embarrassment with a joke.

"I wouldn't be surprised if your father forbade you from learning Latin, out of sheer distaste for res publica," said Bush, alluding to du Maurier's ancestors' place in the ousted French aristocracy.

Despite urging from dinner guests to continue his Bucolics recitation, Bush declined.

"I have already taken up far too much of your valuable time with my classical nattering," Bush said. "I dearly wish I could give you back this hour during which you so graciously indulged my dilettantism, but, as Plautus said, 'Factum est illud, fieri infectum non potest.' Done is done, it cannot be made undone."


http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4127&n=1

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Hahahaha, oh sure, put the link to the Onion at the bottom of the OP.

I was wondering where the cue cards could be hidden around the white house for a bit there.

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All other things being equal, he would be an extremely popular President right now if he was like that. Even with the invasion of Irak.

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With whom? The intelligentsia?

Give me ol' dubya any day.

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what are you talking about? He used crib notes on his hand.

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All other things being equal, he would be an extremely popular President right now if he was like that. Even with the invasion of Irak.

Perhaps, but I thought that Presidents who spoke that went out of style in the 1860s

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Old hat. Still funny, though

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With whom? The intelligentsia?

Give me ol' dubya any day.


Yep, with the snobs who like that sort of Window dressing.

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Perhaps, but I thought that Presidents who spoke that went out of style in the 1860s


you're probably right.

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Dubya's cut from a different cloth, and one that's more familiar to people than the caricature that you have here.

I have no problem with people who talk that way, it's just the general motivation behind these folks that bothers me.

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My problem with most Onion articles is that they cease to be funny after the first one or two paragraphs, but to maintain the "joke newspaper" format they keep hammering away at the joke. Once you've skimmed the front page there's rarely any benefit to opening the articles.

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In real news, this was the front page headline in the chicago tribune this morning. It took a second to realize it wasn't the Apolyton edition.

Shrub poisoned zoo monkeys



Yes, it's all Shrub's fault no matter how obscure.

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In real news, this was the front page headline in the chicago tribune this morning. It took a second to realize it wasn't the Apolyton edition.

Shrub poisoned zoo monkeys



Yes, it's all Shrub's fault no matter how obscure.
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Hahahaha, oh sure, put the link to the Onion at the bottom of the OP.




And there I was thinking... "Maybe he's just pretending"

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With whom? The intelligentsia?

Give me ol' dubya any day.


With Europeans, at least. I hold that if America had a president who had the same policies and fought the same wars as Dubya has but who didn't seem like he's trying to fit into almost every stereotype that the world has about Americans, he'd be more popular here. Not super-popular, of course - there's always the crowd who hates every American president no matter what's he like - but he wouldn't be hated to the degree that he is now.

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With whom? The intelligentsia?

Give me ol' dubya any day.


Please, take him and keep him with you, far away from the halls of power.

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In real news, this was the front page headline in the chicago tribune this morning. It took a second to realize it wasn't the Apolyton edition.

Shrub poisoned zoo monkeys



Yes, it's all Shrub's fault no matter how obscure.





It took me about 15 seconds to realize the true meaning of the headline!

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Shrub poisoned zoo monkeys


I saw that headline as well... and thought it worth posting on Apolyton, but never had the time this morning...

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With Europeans, at least. I hold that if America had a president who had the same policies and fought the same wars as Dubya has but who didn't seem like he's trying to fit into almost every stereotype that the world has about Americans, he'd be more popular here. Not super-popular, of course - there's always the crowd who hates every American president no matter what's he like - but he wouldn't be hated to the degree that he is now.


It's really quite an interesting question: If you'd had an American president that followed the same, or even harsher foreign policies than Bush, but would be an "old european gentleman" stereotype in his ways, would the european public love him, or hate him? or just hate him less.

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The freaking zoo monkeys deserved it

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With Europeans, at least. I hold that if America had a president who had the same policies and fought the same wars as Dubya has but who didn't seem like he's trying to fit into almost every stereotype that the world has about Americans, he'd be more popular here.


Who's fault is that then? The perception of Europeans, or Dubya for just being an American? I don't see him as trying to fit into the general stereotype, why that would presuppose that he isn't what he appears to be. He might be the brilliant fellow, but he just dumbs himself down to appeal to modern America. By gosh, you've got it!

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Who's fault is that then? The perception of Europeans, or Dubya for just being an American? I don't see him as trying to fit into the general stereotype, why that would presuppose that he isn't what he appears to be. He might be the brilliant fellow, but he just dumbs himself down to appeal to modern America. By gosh, you've got it!


He most certainly does fit the stereotypes of a dumb hick. And Bush is no genius. He simply can;t be an utter dullard, but genius he is not. Intelligence is not the only value that will get one power.

LBJ was also a plain spoken southern guy, but he did not come off as an idiot like Bush does.

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Who's fault is that then? The perception of Europeans, or Dubya for just being an American? I don't see him as trying to fit into the general stereotype, why that would presuppose that he isn't what he appears to be. He might be the brilliant fellow, but he just dumbs himself down to appeal to modern America. By gosh, you've got it!


Well that's certainly a possibility.

And it's not just the dumbness angle. Let's see:

Stereotype 1. Americans are dumb: BUSH IS DUM LOL
Stereotype 2. Americans think they're cowboys: All that Crawford stuff
Stereotype 3. Americans are fundamentalists: Bush talks about his best buddy Jesus and in general comes off as the most religious president in ages
Stereotype 4. Americans are arrogant: Bush foreign policy
Stereotype 5. Money rules America: Bush is a rich man who has appointed an administration full of rich people
Stereotype 6. Americans don't know their geography: Grecians and Slovenians I mean Slovakians
Stereotype 7. Americans are really into lawsuits: Election 2000, anyone?
Stereotype 8. Americans love guns a bit too much: aircraft carrier stunt, Star Wars, the whole war thing
Stereotype 9. America is one big Texas: see Stereotype 2

The only way Bush could be more complete a stereotype if he gained a few hundred pounds more. I mean, it's the equivalent of Chirac prancing around in a striped shirt and a beret, with a basket filled with red wine bottles, french bread and frog legs, smoking a cigarette and going "Zur alors! La France surrenders! Oh la la!" while not having bathed for a week. Or Italy getting a prime minister who looked like Tony Soprano and was really corrupt and impulsive and autocratic in a kinda buffoonish way and thought he was the God's gift to women. No wait

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