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sprucemoose3311
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san jose, ca
Jun 2002 time: 21:37
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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/...3386885,00.html
THE TEACHER BOMBER
One of the bombers who brought carnage to London taught disabled children, it has emerged.
Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30, of Dewsbury, was a supply teaching assistant who taught disabled children in Beeston, it has been revealed.
A picture of him carried on the front page of The Times shows the bearded bomber caring for young children at the school.
The news came as police told Sky News they were hunting a fifth man involved in the plot to kill 52 people in Britain's first suicide strikes.
Sky News' crime correspondent Martin Brunt said: "Police have to assume that there were others working with these four."
The Times reported that the mastermind of the attacks was a Pakistani in his 30s who arrived through a British port last month but left a day before the bombings.
Detectives are piecing together the lives of the suicide bombers - four home-grown young men.
Three of the four bombers are believed to be Shehzad Tanweer, 22, of Leeds, Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30, of Dewsbury, and Hasib Hussain, 19, of Leeds.
A fourth man from Yorkshire has been identified by police but not yet named.
He is believed to have been on the train which was devastated near Russell Square Tube station and is thought to be a friend of the other three suspects.
Bashir Ahmed, 65, the uncle of Shehzad Tanweer, said: "The family is shattered. This is a terrible thing."
Mr Ahmed said it was hard for the family to accept their son had caused such loss of life, adding: "It wasn't him. It must have been forces behind him."
Meanwhile, police have raided homes in Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.
Shehzad Tanweer pictured on the front page of The Sun
Brunt said police had received a tip-off that they might find explosives in a home
and a bit more:http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/cr...ticle299086.ece
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999 time: 05:37
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If you can't trust people who look after disabled children, who can you trust? I would expect a huge backlash against people of arab decent and moslems throughout the UK and elsewhere perhaps.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999 time: 05:37
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True, but for the local populace, the local muslims are at hand.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999 time: 05:37
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link?
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999 time: 05:37
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It could be the begining of the middle, or the middle of the beginning even, if you're a pessimist.
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Lancer
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Oregon Coast, USA! or Bohol, Philippines!
Apr 1999 time: 05:37
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war is hell
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Dr Strangelove
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I remember an interview some magazine did last year with a British muslim businessman. He denounced western bigotry and smuggly pointed out how different he was from what he thought the reporter expected a muslim to be. Then he talked about why he hated western culture and about how the west deserved what it was getting from the terrorists. He stated that even British miuslims like himself might become involved in terrorism, but added that they would not be involved in terrorism against British targets since as good muslims they would not violate the hospitality of their British hosts.
Evidently he was wrong. I'd like to see the reporter track him down and re-interview him now.
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000 time: 00:37
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo
That's pretty damn unfair. He said that it was unlikely given the statement put out, not that it "could NOT" be the situation. |
"CNN ran a piece Saturday in the US with Peter Bergen, speculating on the "chilling" possibility that the bombers were Muslim British subjects with UK passports. I have to say that I was outraged and appalled by this piece of potentially destructive speculation. [I have now seen a copy of the transcript and am sorry to say I misheard this report; it was about the danger to the US of radicalized European Muslims, not an allegation that British Muslims committed the July 7 attack. Apologies to Mr. Bergen and CNN. - 7/11/2005].
First, we still have no idea who did this. It is very likely the "Qaeda al-Jihad in Europe" group that claimed responsibility immediately. Their statement appeared very quickly after the bombings and yet had none of the appearance of being rushed. That suggests it was carefully composed before the fact. The rumors that the statement has errors in the Arabic or the Quran citation are absolutely incorrect, and al-Sharq al-Awsat came to the same conclusion in its Saturday edition.
The statement was in Arabic. The instances of British Muslim participation in terrorism given in the CNN piece were all non-Arabs: Richard Reid and several South Asian British, all of whom undertook operations abroad rather than in the UK. None of them probably even knew Arabic well or could compose a statement in it. Britain's South Asian Muslim community is almost certainly not the origin of this attack. The statement celebrated Arabness or `urubah along with Islam. No Bangladeshi-Briton or Pakistani-Briton wrote that.
The statement was probably not written by a second-generation Arab Briton or even by a long-term, integrated Arab Briton resident.
So, if the statement is a guide to the identity of the attackers, this bombing could not have emanated from the British Muslim community.
I did a keyword search in OCLC Worldcat, an electronic database with 40 million volumes, for `urubah and Islam. Virtually all of the hits came from Egyptian Muslim thinkers publishing in Cairo and Giza during the past 30 years, roughly in a Muslim Brotherhood tradition. Egyptian Muslim revivalist intellectual Muhammad Amara wrote the big book on Uruba and Islam. Likewise, there was a book on Islam and uruba in Darfur, presumably supporting the Sudanese government (the Fur of Darfur are Muslims and often know Arabic, and the Arabic-speaking Sudanese living there are a minority, with whom the Fur will intermarry. The Arabic speakers, who look just like the Fur in being black Africans, have engaged in predations against the Fur in the past few years, with tens of thousands killed, even as some of the Fur sought greater regional autonomy from Khartum).
My guess is that the author of the statement is Egyptian or Sudanese, with some sort of intellectual genealogy in the radical fringes of the Muslim Brotherhood, perhaps al-Zawahiri's al-Jihad al-Islami.
Of course, all of this is premised on the statement being a guide to the perpetrators, which we cannot know for sure. But everything else above follows pretty tightly if it is."
You're right, he does enough caveating to leave himself an out. After giving 5 paragraphs arguing that it WAS non Brits, and indicated he was outraged and appalled at someone indicating it was POSSIBLE that it was.
Why does it seem to me that Juan Coles rhetorical techniques perfectly mirror those of the administration types he decries?
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