15-07-2005 03:26									#1
	my next pc Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Last edited by MarkG on 15-07-2005 at 03:31

	15-07-2005 03:29									#2
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elephants

bananas

	15-07-2005 03:30									#3
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That's one ugly monitor.

	15-07-2005 03:30									#4
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It's a horrible monitor. Can you change the angle?

	15-07-2005 03:32									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker elephants bananas

elephants? where?

	15-07-2005 03:33									#6
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Get PLUS now!

	15-07-2005 03:33									#7
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there!

*runs away*

	15-07-2005 03:34									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Can you change the angle?

quote: 0 to 20-degree tilt

	15-07-2005 03:34									#9
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What's the response rate, contrast ratio, brightness, viewing angle...?

	15-07-2005 03:35									#10
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG elephants? where?

	15-07-2005 03:36									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Winston Get PLUS now!

papa needs a new black pc

	15-07-2005 03:37									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Asher What's the response rate, contrast ratio, brightness, viewing angle...?

who cares, it's black and it's sony

	15-07-2005 03:38									#13
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG who cares, it's black and it's sony

Oh, you poor thing.

Sony is overpriced and their LCD panels are far from the best...

You should spend 5 minutes and do actual research.

	15-07-2005 03:41									#14
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quote: Included Devices: Monitor Stand Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (Standard) Brightness: 400 cd/m2 Color Depth: 16.2 Million Colors Contrast Ratio: 600:1 Diagonal Size: 17 in Interface: Analog, Digital Interface Type: Video - 15 pin High-Density D-shell (VGA), Video - 24 pin DVI-D Monitor Color: Black Mounting: Arm Mount, Desktop, Wallmount Pitch: 0.264 mm Resolution: 1280 x 1024 (SXGA) Response Time: 8 ms System Type: Apple Macintosh, PC Viewable Size: 17 in Display Type: Active Matrix LCD (TFT) Horizontal Viewing Angle: 160 degrees Vertical Viewing Angle: 160 degrees Height: 15.4 in Width: 15.9 in Depth: 8.5 in Weight: 12.6 lbs Warranty Information: 3 Year Parts, Labor, Backlight

around 230 euros

	15-07-2005 03:44									#15
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What's the model #?

You have to be careful, a lot of the 8ms panels cheat and don't have full 16.2 million color reproduction even though they say they do.

	15-07-2005 03:46									#16
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SDM-HS75/B

	15-07-2005 03:47									#17
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Markos, don't waste your money going for the good looks and all those "perfect" designs. Also, the "ergonomic" designs are horrible.

Instead, use your money to make sure that you have a really good system. Order your PC built with specific parts, so that there would no badass bottleneks or something like that.

You know, some people buy a 2.8 GHz PC with 1 GB RAM and have an Intel integrated video card on top of that .

	15-07-2005 03:50									#18
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If they're not playing 3D games, what's wrong with integrated video?

	15-07-2005 03:50									#19
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i wont have an integrated vga

case/mb: SN95G5V2

quote: * Chassis G5-type aluminum chassis, black color storage bays: 1 x 5.25", 2 x 3.5" (1 internal) stealthed drive doors dimensions: 30 x 20 x 18.5 cm (LWH) weight: 2.85 kg net / 4.65 kg gross * Mainboard Shuttle FN95, Shuttle form factor, proprietary design for SN95G5V2 chipset: NVIDIA nForce3 Ultra Award V6.0PG BIOS, 4MBit flash memory with hardware monitoring and ACPI power management functions dimensions: 25.4 x 18.5 cm * Power supply unit Silent-X 240 Watt mini PSU, supports 115/230V connectors: 20-pin ATX, 4-pin ATX12V * Processor support Socket 939 supports AMD Athlon 64 and AMD 64 FX processors supports 1GHz Hypertransport (2000 MT/s) * Processor cooling system Shuttle I.C.E. (Integrated Cooling Engine) advanced Heatpipe technology linear fan control, 92mm cooling fan * Memory support 2 x 184 pin slots, supports Dual Channel supports PC3200/2700/2100 (DDR400/333/266) DDR SDRAM memory up to a total size of 2GB no support of buffered or ECC-modules * Expansion slots 1 x AGP 8X/4X (1,5V only) 1 x 32 Bit PCI (v2.2) * 6-channel Audio Realtek ALC655 5.1 channel audio controller AC97 v2.2 compiant analog: line-out (6-ch), microphone, CD-in, AUX digital: optical SPDIF in and out * LAN controller Marvel 8001 Gigabit Ethernet network controller supports 10 / 100 / 1000 MBit/s opteration * Firewire controller IEEE1394 Firewire controller VIA VT6307 with 2 Firewire connectors (1x front and 1x rear) supports 400Mb/s, 200Mb/s, 100Mb/s data transfer rate * Drive connectors 2 x Serial ATA, supports RAID 0, 1, 0+1 2 x IDE ATA 133 drives 1 x floppy disk drive * Front-panel I/O Microphone Headphone (Line-out) 2x USB 2.0 Firewire (4 pol.) * Back-panel I/O Firewire (6 pin) PS/2 for mouse and keyboard Gigabit LAN (RJ45) 2 x USB 2.0 6-ch Audio line-out (2x rear/front, bass/center) line-in optical SPDIF in and out coaxial SPDIF out Serial port (COM) optional Wireless LAN module optional parallel port * Other onboard connectors 2 x USB 2.0 (total 6x) 2 x CDROM input 1 x AUX 1 x Infrared interface 3 x fan connectors * Conformity This device is classed as a technical information equipment (ITE) in class B and is intended for use in living room and office. The CE-mark approves the conformity by the EU-guidelines: - EMV-guideline 89/336/EWG electromagnetic tolerance - LVD-guideline 73/23/EWG use of electric devices within certain voltage-limits

	15-07-2005 03:53									#20
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	15-07-2005 03:55									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Asher If they're not playing 3D games, what's wrong with integrated video?

Because they may suddenly get the urge to play a game, or require advanced video feautures for whatever other reasons. Really, these people would be far better off getting a cheap real card. A GeForce FX 5200 is very cheap, yet a fully compatible DX9-card.

quote: ATHLON 64 3200+ SOCKET 939 2 x KINGSTON 512 MB DDR PC3200 WESTERN DIGITAL 120GB SATA

Hmm, IIRC, you have always preferred AMD? Don't forget a DVD drive.

	15-07-2005 03:57									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Because they may suddenly get the urge to play a game, or require advanced video feautures for whatever other reasons. Really, these people would be far better off getting a cheap real card. A GeForce FX 5200 is very cheap, yet a fully compatible DX9-card.

Because many users are like my parents, and they would never, ever, play a 3D game.

	15-07-2005 04:04									#23
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Well, then think future investment. Unless I'm mistaken, Longhorn wants support for 3D feautures for its new interface styles? I think that if you're getting a PC now, it would be wise for it to be able to run Longhorn. At least I prefer my PCs to have a configuration that lasts several years instead of becoming obsolete 6 months after purchase.

	15-07-2005 04:05									#24
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You can run Longhorn on older machines, it just won't use the fancy eyecandy that WGF 2.0 (DX10-ish) cards will support.

Even if you buy a top-end card today, it won't support the highest fidelity in Longhorn.

There's 3 modes though, the most basic is 2D-based like Windows XP.

	15-07-2005 04:07									#25
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My next PC:

	15-07-2005 04:08									#26
	Got spare money?

I still think that's one of the ugliest computers I've ever seen.

The only comparison are the other iMacs.

	15-07-2005 04:16									#27
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I love it, especially because of all the **** I'm able to eliminate with it's built-in bluetooth/airport: no more wires to a keyboard or mouse, to a printer(I'll hook it up to an airport station); I'll stream my music to my stereo via Airport w/ AirTunes..it'll do.

And for gaming I'll have the 360

	15-07-2005 04:33									#28
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Bluetooth! Wow, I completely forgot the iMac was the only computer with bluetooth and wireless internet.

It makes me wonder -- how do my bluetooth PDA, keyboards, and mouses work? How does my wireless internet work?

How would you get your iMac to work with Wireless USB when it is finalized this year?

	15-07-2005 04:49									#29
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Verto, you're offending my eyes. Remove it!

	15-07-2005 05:18									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Bluetooth! Wow, I completely forgot the iMac was the only computer with bluetooth and wireless internet. It makes me wonder -- how do my bluetooth PDA, keyboards, and mouses work? How does my wireless internet work? How would you get your iMac to work with Wireless USB when it is finalized this year?

My Philips TV has color; does that mean it's the only one that does? No and neither does my statement mean that only the iMac offers Bluetooth.

Unless the fact that your car has four tires means that Toyotas only have three.