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Platypus Rex is offline Platypus Rex

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actually quite a good read that makes you wonder


what would we replace the banana with ?

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Yellow cucumbers...

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Please remind me, what's the problem with it? some sort of genetic desease, no?

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IIRC, it was the complete lack of genetic diversity in the Cavendish cultivar. It is possible that some plague could destroy the whole lot very quickly because of this.

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It'll just disappear for a season or 3. It will be back, that's all. not an extinction by any means.

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IIRC, it was the complete lack of genetic diversity in the Cavendish cultivar. It is possible that some plague could destroy the whole lot very quickly because of this.


I thought there were many varieties of bananas, although one is grown far more often than the rest.

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........we can always replant them, we'll loose them for a few years, there are thousands of seed repositories around the world.

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What was it, I was seeing some pictures of Genetically Modified bananas that were orange because of the added Vitamin A or something like that...

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I thought there were many varieties of bananas, although one is grown far more often than the rest.


The Cav. is the one that is most prevalent in the West, eaten far more than any other. A similar thing happened to the banana breed that it replaced earlier last century.

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It'll just disappear for a season or 3. It will be back, that's all. not an extinction by any means.


Technically true: Growers growing the cav's predecessor were never able to recover from the die off; the market niche was filled too quickly by the cav.

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Also in this (well, next) month's issue: The Dangerous Folly of Bunker-Busting Nukes

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What is the dangerous folly of bunker busting nukes?

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If you're in a bunker, and you're busted.

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What is the dangerous folly of bunker busting nukes?


http://www.popsci.com/popsci/genera...1079820,00.html
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pg.36 Popular Science Magazine, August 2005

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Bombs Away?
Scientists cast doubt over the Pentagon's plan to build a new nuclear bunker buster

By Rena Marie Pacella

According to the U.S. Department of Defense, hundreds of underground bunkers in enemy territories serve as weapons silos, command centers and safe havens for rogue leaders. Drilled several hundred feet or deeper into the ground, many of the hideouts are far beyond the reach of conventional weapons. The Pentagon’s solution: Build a super-slim bomb called a Robust Nuclear Earth Penetrator (RNEP) capable of piercing 20 feet of solid rock and unleashing shock waves on par with a magnitude-7 earthquake.

This fall Congress will decide whether to approve $8.5 million to complete a feasibility study of the RNEP. But a recent report from the National Academy of Sciences, a government-funded scientific advisory group, threatens to strike the weapon dead. Issued in May, the 150-page report concludes that the "bunker buster" would fare better than conventional weapons but may leave many targets unscathed and could result in more than one million civilian casualties.

On all counts, an earth-tunneling bomb is a tall order. The sole nuclear bunker buster in the U.S. arsenal, the 300-kiloton B61, can’t penetrate rock. According to the NAS, to strike deeply buried targets in rocky terrain would require a one-megaton bomb or stronger—one that is up to 80 times as potent as the Hiroshima bomb. What’s more, the RNEP would need to burrow thousands of feet into the ground to contain fallout from the blast.

Here, one scenario envisioned by the NAS.

Nuking a bunker, in four steps
1. A B-2 bomber flying at an altitude of 40,000 feet drops a modified B83 nuclear weapon carrying a 1.2-megaton warhead. It travels 2,000 feet per second toward its ground target.

2. Assuming the soil is composed of granite, the nuke will penetrate to a depth of 20 feet within 100 milliseconds. Radar sensors on the warhead detonate the nuke once it has plowed to its target depth, releasing the energy of more than a million tons of TNT.

3. The blast creates a 1,200-foot-wide crater and sends a shock wave traveling 1,116 feet per second through the ground. The wave will destroy everything down to 1,000 feet. Any bunkers deeper than that could survive the blast.

4. The National Academy of Sciences estimates that the explosion will shoot some 300,000 tons of radioactive debris up to 15 miles into the air. The total number of casualties will vary but could exceed one million, depending on weather, wind velocity and the blast’s proximity to towns and cities.

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If you're in a bunker, and you're busted.


Har-dee-har no actually, if your bunker is 1,000 feet below the surface.

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Technically true: Growers growing the cav's predecessor were never able to recover from the die off; the market niche was filled too quickly by the cav.


Ok, so who cares?

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The people currently growing the world's cavs, the ones who will grow its replacement breed, and the people who own futures(?) in it...

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which amounts to approximately 0.0001% of the world's population.


Don't we have bigger fish to fry?

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bananas to bunker busting - a wee bit strecth of the topic
--bunker buating bananananas--yeah baby


The article stated there was at least large bacterial infection that wiped out many producers over sees

if all else fails --plaintains (no chocolate coating)

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bananas to bunker busting - a wee bit strecth of the topic
--bunker buating bananananas--yeah baby



They're in the same month's issue.

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Why not just throw a bunch of used banana peels into the bunker?

The organisms living on the banana peels will eat up the available oxygen supply, overloading the filtration systems.

Or, someone will slip on the banana peel and fall over.

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Anybody here every played Mario Cart on Nintendo 64?

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I have.

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the great and powerful bananas will never disappear! never!

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This thread gives me a lack of a feel for closure, on so many different levels.

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...and good riddens.

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Someday I'll be making corn flakes with milk and realize there is no more banana option.

That will be a sad day.

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Technically true: Growers growing the cav's predecessor were never able to recover from the die off; the market niche was filled too quickly by the cav.


Ok, so who cares?


Poly... who will have to embrace a new sort of banana.

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