18-07-2005 22:04									#1
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For the last six months or so (no clue really, just 'as long as i can remember, almost', I've been able to hit the back button after I post, and re-read the quote there.

About a week ago, I suddenly couldn't anymore - it does the POSTDATA thing where it asks me if i want to re-post whatever I posted last, and then I get a regenerated (different) quote, although fortunately no DP.

Is this just me? I may have updated FireFox at around the same time (to current 1.0.4) but I don't see anything obviously changing otherwise ...

	18-07-2005 23:27									#2
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Switch to Opera. The Back button will always work.

	19-07-2005 00:50									#3
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It works with IE 6 for me...

I figure that it's just a "form posting" quirk with firefox that doesn't recognize the auto-redirect as a separate 'hop' between pages... therefore it attempts to return to the form posting rather than the quote hosting page.

	19-07-2005 02:46									#4
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But it worked fine until about a week ago? What changed ...

Besides, DC, it does take me back to the quote page - just a different quote.

	19-07-2005 05:43									#5
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Switch to Opera. The Back button will always work.

QFT

	21-07-2005 19:48									#6
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Iīm using firefox too and donīt have any issues with the quotes page...

EDIT:

Just had this problem for the first time! ROFL
So itīs no longer possible to read the quotes..? Sad...

	21-07-2005 22:59									#7
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Opera.

	21-07-2005 23:35									#8
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Opera - bloaty terrible default interfaces for the 21st century idiot. Blatant lying on their website is more than enough for me to think less than nothing of them.

They had a thing on their website about PCWorld declaring them Best Web Browser...unfortunately they didn't win the award, Firefox did.

	21-07-2005 23:42									#9
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Then it's probably reloading the page instead of caching it?

	21-07-2005 23:44									#10
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Firefox 1.0 and older will always reload instead of displaying a full page cache.

Firefox 1.5 (due in September) has "fast back cache" (which I've enabled on my nightly builds fo a while now), which will show the full cache like IE6 and Opera do.

	21-07-2005 23:48									#11
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Those pages have the "Pause" button for a reason...

* Modo44 ducks *


EDIT: The going back does not work for me, either. It tries to make a new post (and hits the anti-flood thing), instead of just showing the quote page as it used to. I use Mozilla 1.7.something.

	22-07-2005 02:19									#12
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 For the last six months or so (no clue really, just 'as long as i can remember, almost', I've been able to hit the back button after I post, and re-read the quote there. About a week ago, I suddenly couldn't anymore - it does the POSTDATA thing where it asks me if i want to re-post whatever I posted last, and then I get a regenerated (different) quote, although fortunately no DP. Is this just me? I may have updated FireFox at around the same time (to current 1.0.4) but I don't see anything obviously changing otherwise ...

I get the same thing, but only recenlty (the past few days)

	22-07-2005 02:20									#13
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oh btw, I can go back and read the quote.

When it says the blurb about postdata, I just click okay. I'll test it now.

edit: that didn't work. But it just worked for me a second ago. When I tried it after making this post, it said I couldn't post another message within 30 seconds.

re-edit: but it did work after that 1st edit. I got some quote about today being a learning experience or some crap like that. I never cared for the quotes that much anyways.

	22-07-2005 02:41									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Firefox 1.0 and older will always reload instead of displaying a full page cache. Firefox 1.5 (due in September) has "fast back cache" (which I've enabled on my nightly builds fo a while now), which will show the full cache like IE6 and Opera do.

And once again Firefox copies some functionality already pioneered by Opera...

Which is ok by me, actually, because in the end we all get better products. BUT Firefox should at least acknowledge that Opera is their main source for browser innovation...

	22-07-2005 03:16									#15
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quote: Opera - bloaty terrible default interfaces for the 21st century idiot.

Hahaha!. Did you just think of that yourself? Sounds like the intro to Plan 9. Glonkie trying to be funny

Seriously. Like you said, DEFAULT interface. Not that I think you are right but Opera also has the most customisable interface ever.

So Firefox will have something that even IE already has as soon as September? I'm impressed

	22-07-2005 03:41									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Alex And once again Firefox copies some functionality already pioneered by Opera... Which is ok by me, actually, because in the end we all get better products. BUT Firefox should at least acknowledge that Opera is their main source for browser innovation...

Actually IE had that before Opera did...

	22-07-2005 03:42									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij Hahaha!. Did you just think of that yourself? Sounds like the intro to Plan 9. Glonkie trying to be funny Seriously. Like you said, DEFAULT interface. Not that I think you are right but Opera also has the most customisable interface ever. So Firefox will have something that even IE already has as soon as September? I'm impressed

Is it really more customisable than Firefox?

Where is the equivalent Greasemonkey customization in Opera?

Opera isn't the most innovative browser, hell, they added tabs after Mozilla...

The newest version of Opera is also starting to try to copy the simplified Firefox UI...which is a great thing IMO, Opera is like the all-in-one kitchen appliance that no one really likes.

	22-07-2005 03:54									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Is it really more customisable than Firefox?

Yes

quote: Where is the equivalent Greasemonkey customization in Opera?

Ah, Greasemonkey. Able to do more harm than good.

quote: Opera isn't the most innovative browser, hell, they added tabs after Mozilla...

Please get your facts straight, okay?

quote: The newest version of Opera is also starting to try to copy the simplified Firefox UI...which is a great thing IMO, Opera is like the all-in-one kitchen appliance that no one really likes.

Okay, what is it? Either it is the " bloaty terrible default interfaces for the 21st century idiot" or it isn't.

	22-07-2005 04:02									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Hueij Yes

What can you do in Opera that you can't in Firefox...?

quote: Ah, Greasemonkey. Able to do more harm than good.

In that it allows more customization of the web browsing experience?

quote: Please get your facts straight, okay?

In September of 2001, Dave Hyatt added a tabbed browsing mode to Mozilla. This feature was release in Mozilla 0.9.5 in October of 2001

In December of 2001, Opera Software released version 6 of its Opera browser which was the first version to contain a genuined tabbed browsing mode (along with its SDI and MDI modes).

quote: Okay, what is it? Either it is the " bloaty terrible default interfaces for the 21st century idiot" or it isn't.

I said it was starting to, it's not there yet.

The ads, for instance, take up a lot of space.

	22-07-2005 05:14									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Asher What can you do in Opera that you can't in Firefox...?

Can you use the '1' and '2' keys to cycle between tabs?

	22-07-2005 16:18									#22
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Browser wars

Firefox

	22-07-2005 17:54									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Can you use the '1' and '2' keys to cycle between tabs?

It's ctrl-1, ctrl-2, ctrl-3, etc by default to select a tab.

You can also use CTRL-TAB to cycle through the tabs left-to-right, CTRL-SHIFT-TAB to go right-to-left. This scheme was chosen because it mimicks the same application-cycling mechanism in Wnidows, which is ALT-TAB and ALT-SHIFT-TAB.

	22-07-2005 23:14									#24
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The Opera version of tab-switching sounds better to me. But then, I'm probably clueless.

	23-07-2005 03:04									#25
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I never really use tab switching. I don't see what the big deal is.

or perhaps I'm just stuck in my inneficient old ways. I just click on the tab in the bottome task bar.

	23-07-2005 05:10									#26
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike The Opera version of tab-switching sounds better to me. But then, I'm probably clueless.

Sounds less powerful to me.

	23-07-2005 05:11									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Asher It's ctrl-1, ctrl-2, ctrl-3, etc by default to select a tab. You can also use CTRL-TAB to cycle through the tabs left-to-right, CTRL-SHIFT-TAB to go right-to-left. This scheme was chosen because it mimicks the same application-cycling mechanism in Wnidows, which is ALT-TAB and ALT-SHIFT-TAB.

I know that, but can it be changed. I'm lazy, you see, and would prefer to press one key rather than 3 seperate keys.

	24-07-2005 06:24									#28
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?

	24-07-2005 06:48									#29
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I downloaded and memorised the quote database. Browser wars are for weenies.

	24-07-2005 06:55									#30
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Back on topic now...

quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 Is this just me? I may have updated FireFox at around the same time (to current 1.0.4) but I don't see anything obviously changing otherwise ...

This started to happen when I upgraded to 1.0.4 too, but now with 1.0.6 it seems to have disappeared again....