19-07-2005 17:29									#1
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In C3C we have 8 civ specific abilities:

Commercial
Industrious
Expansionistic
Militaristic
Religious
Scientific
Agricultural
Seafaring

Does anyone know what specific abilities there will be in Civ IV?

Another question, will the demographics screen still be in Civ IV?.

Thank you very much.

	19-07-2005 22:11									#2
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In CivIV, civ traits are replaced by leader personality traits. Philosophic is the one I recall offhand, but there's also an aggressive one, no doubt a science-related one, and so on.

	20-07-2005 03:16									#3
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Aggressive, Creative, Organized and Philosophical are four I can remember right now, I am sure there were others. Aggressive is pretty straightforward, we can easily guess what it does, but for the others, we don't really know anything.

	20-07-2005 03:32									#4
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I'll wager a guess that Creative will help culture-wise. One'd expect Organized to help with corruption, but since corruption got the shaft, maybe it reduces maintenance costs or something?

	20-07-2005 04:39									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Aggressive, Creative, Organized and Philosophical are four I can remember right now, I am sure there were others. Aggressive is pretty straightforward, we can easily guess what it does, but for the others, we don't really know anything.

Spiritual and Expansive.

	20-07-2005 04:45									#6
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So, in alphabetical order (just to be organized ):

Aggressive
Creative
Expansive
Organized
Philosophical
Spiritual

Only six, so far?

	20-07-2005 11:06									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Last Conformist I'll wager a guess that Creative will help culture-wise.

Creative races in MOO2/MOO3 were good researchers. I'd wager scientific.

	20-07-2005 17:32									#8
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I wonder what "organized" could be...

	20-07-2005 20:57									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Aro So, in alphabetical order (just to be organized ): Aggressive Creative Expansive Organized Philosophical Spiritual Only six, so far?

Mmm, only six.

So, in Civ IV the personality of the leader determines the civ traits, just like previous Civ I and II

So, we can nearly state that:

Aggressive = Militaristic.
Creative = Scientific.
Expansive = Expansionistic
Organized = Industrious / Commercial / Agricultural
Philosophical = ¿?
Spiritual = Religious

What does philosophical implies???

Perhaps we are returning to Civ II in fact, in Civ II there were 9 traits in 3 groups:

Attack: Rational / Neutral / Aggressive
Expand: Perfectionist / Normal / Expansionist
Civilize: Militaristic / Normal / Civilized

Erasing the neutrals we have nearly the six Civ IV traits (with a spare warmonger trait).

	20-07-2005 23:32									#10
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I'm rather hoping that Agr doesn't return in recognizable form ...