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Snotty is offline Snotty
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I just heard about this on newsround

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Boy, 15, wins curfew legal battle

A 15-year-old boy has won a landmark High Court challenge to the legality of child curfew zones used to tackle anti-social behaviour.
The teenager said the use of dispersal zones in Richmond, south-west London, breached his rights under the European Convention on Human Rights.

Unaccompanied under-16s found in zones after 9pm can be held and escorted home, whether badly behaved or not.

The Home Office said it would be appealing against the ruling.

The police and Richmond Council had argued that curfew zones reduced anti-social behaviour.

The High Court ruled that the law did not give the police a power of arrest, and officers could not force someone to come with them.

Lord Justice Brooke said: "... All of us have the right to walk the streets without interference from police constables or CSOs unless they possess common law or statutory powers to stop us.

"If Parliament considered that such a power was needed, it should have said so, and identified the circumstances in which it intended the power to be exercised."

In a statement after the ruling the boy, known in the case as "W" and described as a "model student", said: "Of course I have no problem with being stopped by the police if I've done something wrong.

"But they shouldn't be allowed to treat me like a criminal just because I'm under 16.



Im glad the under 16 curfew has fallen over.....a terrible idea smuggled in under the wing of the dispersal zones.

The youth of today If only they were as well behaved as their parents were in their teens, then we wouldnt need such laws at all

I think the police might still be able to confiscate the kids alcohol though

Provost Harrison is offline Provost Harrison
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I was completely unaware that there were curfews which I find somewhat disturbing that they have, as you say, been sneaked in. I think the problem is that the government is not dealing with the problem that causes the problems in youths rather than carry out some of their more despotic acts...

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Another one bites the dust

Hopefully America's youth oppression exports dont take hold in Europe. Fight them off.

DanielXY is offline DanielXY
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Dec 2002
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Well in Germany there is a curfew for under 16y old from 10pm and for under 18y old from midnight...

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The youth of today If only they were as well behaved as their parents were in their teens, then we wouldnt need such laws at all


They don't need such laws - if these youth are truly so misbehaved, the cops should have loads of offenses to charge them with, instead of harassing them for being outside.

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Feb 2001
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When I was younger I though curfews were silly, but now having a young woman as a daughter, I appreciated them.

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When I was younger I though curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciated them.


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Damn, quoted before corrected. I got a phone call right as i submitted it so didn't check it right away.

Kuciwalker is offline Kuciwalker
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You could also, erm... correct my post

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Curfews are retarded.

Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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Nov 2001
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Good news. Curfews are horrible.

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You could also, erm... correct my post


Too late.


btw, I cleaned up some of the typos. I wouldn't want Rah to look silly.

mactbone is offline mactbone
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Sep 2001
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Ozzy, do you have a persecution complex? You seem to feel like the government is out to get you. Maybe they are! Run, Ozzy!

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Nov 2001
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Nah, he simply is a professional lobbyist for Youth Rights. Most of his points are interesting actually. His points on lower voting age are really interesting IMO, and they aren't the only ones.

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Thanks Spiff

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Mar 2001
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Ozzy, do you have a persecution complex? You seem to feel like the government is out to get you. Maybe they are! Run, Ozzy!


Nah, he's just at a funny age.

mactbone is offline mactbone
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Didn't know it was professional. I thought it was a hobby and wondered how someone could spend that kind of time on politics.

Mrs. Tuberski is offline Mrs. Tuberski
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Jan 2005
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The curefew in san antonio work very well, of course they are only imposed for the downtown area. and for folks under 18. They work after 9 or 10 pm teens under 18 are not allowed downtown with out an adult supevisor. Course there isnt really anything to do downtown at night but to drink and make trouble anyway

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