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Asher is offline Asher
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Windows Vista



http://www.betanews.com/article/Lon...ista/1122002477

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Vista?

It should be: Windows '06

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I'd hoped they'd fired the people who came up with "Xbox 360".

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I'd hoped they'd fired the people who came up with "Xbox 360".

It's probably a bunch of artsy people who use Macs who come up with these names.

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Nah, even the Mac's have better names than this!

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Hey, I don't mind what they call it as long as it works.

I kinda like the name, though. Better than "Windows XP2" or "Windows 2006" would have been, anyway.

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Windows Pudding Maker?

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Windows Vista?

Apple's marketshare will jump.

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http://applematters.com/index.php/s...n_from_windows/

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What OS X Could Learn From Windows

by Chris Howard
Jul 20, 2005

Okay.
Hard hat? Check.
Flak jacket? Check.
Flame proof vest? Check.
White flag? Check.

Deep breath? Check.

Windows has some features OS X could do with.

There, I said it. Nice and quick and up front. No beating around the bush. So what now? Duck!!!

Is it safe to come out yet? I’ve been burnt before daring to suggest this. But here I am again, sucker for punishment.

1) Compatible control keys. Switching between Mac and Windows this drives me nuts. I have to consciously think “command-C or control-C?” It shouldn’t have to be that way. And if you’re running RDC or VPC and copying and pasting between OS X and Windows!! Sheesh!

The problem isn’t the labeling, it’s the location of the keys used. I had to use a Windows PC today and I kept pressing Alt-C to copy. This is why it’s a problem. If it was simply a matter of labeling, no worries, mate. Apple - and the zealotry - need to concede that this battle is lost.

Implementing this would rock many people’s boats, so if Apple did make this change it’d have some serious domino affect on other keystrokes and applications that use them, but maybe it could be done with the switch to Intel, just to ease the pain slightly.

2) Save button on toolbars. I don’t think any of the Apple software ever gives you the option to include a Save button. Print button yes, Save button no. A little test - raise your hand if you save your work more often than you print it? Ah, so I’m not alone. Good. You can put your hands down. Thank you.

3) A multi button mouse. And you thought I’d say two. Why stop at two? Especially with things like Exposé, Dashboard and Spotlight. They’re just crying out for single click activation from a mouse. Ok. So this isn’t a Windows feature per sé, but still is needed.

4) Only show relevant file types in open and save dialogs. For those who like seeing every file that’s every existed in their Documents folder, give them a checkbox to show all files. But personally, if I am opening a Pages file, I don’t want to see all my iMovie, Excel, iDVD etc files. And OS X already knows which are which because non-related ones are greyed out.

5) Sort folders to top of directory listings I know that we don’t go folder mining as much since we got Spotlight, so I won’t labor on about this one.

6) More context sensitive help. I notice since I first raised this two years ago, more of it has crept into OS X. So I guess at least I can’t be flamed for this one!

Now why is it that I can list all the features I want Leopard to have and as long as none of them are from Windows, its cool? But dare suggest OS X needs a feature already in Windows and the world comes down on you. We can admit that OS X is not perfect, but not that Windows is better in some ways.

But Apple have admitted it in the past. Here’s just a couple of things I’ve seen Windows do that Apple has added:
- Command-tab switching
- Existing files selectable in Save dialog

Last week I suggested changes to the iPod and more people than not, disagreed. And I reckon this week it’ll be a lot worse. But if I added to this list “Change to Intel CPU’s”... two months ago I would have been burned at the stake. Now it seems we all think that change is logical. So before you get the flame thrower out remember, we know Apple make changes, they borrow from Windows and borrow from their 3rd party developers.

Also, I know I’m going to get flamed for this being a “tired old argument that has been done to death”. Sorry if you feel that way. just pretend I didn’t say these features already existed in Windows and that they are new and revolutionary. If we stop asking, Apple may think we don’t want them anymore. Microsoft copied so much from Mac OS, why can’t Apple do a little copying back?

And if you can take the heat, what would you like to see Apple borrow from Windows?

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1) Compatible control keys. Switching between Mac and Windows this drives me nuts. I have to consciously think “command-C or control-C?” It shouldn’t have to be that way. And if you’re running RDC or VPC and copying and pasting between OS X and Windows!! Sheesh!

3) A multi button mouse. And you thought I’d say two. Why stop at two? Especially with things like Exposé, Dashboard and Spotlight. They’re just crying out for single click activation from a mouse. Ok. So this isn’t a Windows feature per sé, but still is needed.


I have a multi-button mouse and have assigned copy and paste to two of the buttons. It totally rocks my world. Makes things so much easier. I couldn't imagine using a computer without being able to do that anymore.

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When I think of Vista I think of a ****ty town in halfway between San Diego and LA. Even for those outside of California, the name sounds too much like a piece of real estate.

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I have a multi-button mouse and have assigned copy and paste to two of the buttons. It totally rocks my world. Makes things so much easier. I couldn't imagine using a computer without being able to do that anymore.


Same here. It's great, and it saves the strain on my pinky finger that repeatedly pressing ctrl-c/ctrl-v causes.

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Microsoft is a joke. Wake up and start using something else. They're tired, old and slow.

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I have a multi-button mouse and have assigned copy and paste to two of the buttons. It totally rocks my world. Makes things so much easier. I couldn't imagine using a computer without being able to do that anymore.


Funny how that was one of the original mechanisms for mouse cut and paste. They got rid of it because it was stupid.

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there also Chula Vista, a shanty town halfway between San Diego and Tijuana.

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@MS

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In Latvian, vista means "hen". And it's also sometimes hence used as a derogative term for slow stupid women.

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Windows Vista will catch on... It's like Lucky Luke and similar names... Pretty sure it'll boil down to Windows Virus, though...

Windows Longhorn would be a lot cooler... Makes me think of Lucky Luke and the Wild West...

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Windows vista has the benefit of being easy to say in plenty of languages (at least European ones), which will please the international audience. It's a name easy enough to remember, and the advertisement campaign will make sure that everybody knows about it.

I don't think "Longhorn" sounds cooler to non-geek ears. Do you really think the 50 year old housewife would enjoy "longhorn" more than "vista"?

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I hope that MS lives up to their promises with this one . If they do , then they may redeem themselves in my eyes for the horror that was Windows 95 . ( I say this because there are some MS developer blogs claiming that Longhorn is as big a step up over XP as 95 was over 3.11 )

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Hmm . . . .

I read at the posted link that in Latvia , Vista means 'hen' or 'chicken' . Windows Chicken ? WTF ?

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I don't think "Longhorn" sounds cooler to non-geek ears. Do you really think the 50 year old housewife would enjoy "longhorn" more than "vista"?


I think a lot of 50 year old housewives would prefer the Longhorn.

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And so the next round in the release-new-software-without-adding-new-functionality-that-requires-everyone-to-buy-expensive-new-hardware vicious circle begins...

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Yes, there will be no new functionality in the next Windows...

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I think a lot of 50 year old housewives would prefer the Longhorn.

 
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