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Bill3000 is offline Bill3000
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Pray the Gay Away Tired of ads?

Ugh.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...=20050610204542

Disturbing on so many levels.

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In related news, myspace was bought by the owner of Fox News. Coincidence? I think not!

EDIT: btw, I have not read the link in the OP

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I was confused at first. I saw the kids icon and was wondering "why would he be anti-gay, he's clearly a fruit". Turns out he didn't write the document.

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God loves everyone; ergo, God is bi.

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I thought the title said "Pray the Gay Way"

I was expecting some Gay Christian Bathhouse or something.

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Que for "Tubular Bells"

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LC, wrong, there's no such thing as bi.. you either suck the lollipop or you don't.

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I hate to be so cliché, but it seriously reminds me of 1984.

The name of the program "Love in Action" is quite close from the "ministry of love" (responsible, in part, of reeducation). The teens are forbidden from reading any material that isn't explicitely allowed by the institution. They can't hear Christian media: non-Christian media includes Beethoven and Bach.
The institution's policy is also stricly hostile to any interaction between students that isn't monitored. Finally, the students can remain locked for only 15 minutes per day (in the shower).

When I read this, I seriously begin to understand Ozzy's point about youth having no protection. Basically, the students are suffering under the same kind of psychological destruction that inmates go through. The difference is that they didn't fo any crime, and it's not the police/justice that sent them there. If you're a parent, you can do this to your kid without any accountability. Nobody (but the state) would have the right to send an adult to such institutions.

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Well these kind of establishments should be completely illegal and it should be illegal to send any children there...I consider them to be a gross violation of human rights.

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"non-Christian media includes Beethoven and Bach

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Bach?

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@ Bach.

And I like Beethoven too. Does that mean I'm going to hell?

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It's looks pretty bad... including the 2-3 isolation treatment given when a client 1st arrives. Fortunately it looks like all he has to do is threaten some people a couple of times and they'll kick him out.

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"non-Christian media includes Beethoven and Bach


Amazing, innit?

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When I read this, I seriously begin to understand Ozzy's point about youth having no protection. Basically, the students are suffering under the same kind of psychological destruction that inmates go through. The difference is that they didn't fo any crime, and it's not the police/justice that sent them there. If you're a parent, you can do this to your kid without any accountability. Nobody (but the state) would have the right to send an adult to such institutions.


Exactly.



(btw, not my thread, and I wasn't the first to broach youth rights......)

<---- not a one trick pony.

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Why do they specifically ban Abercrombie and Fitch or Calvin Klein brand clothing?

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Yeah, I felt nearly dirty to bring up youth rights now, one mere day after cautionning you about the danger of one-trick-ponyism

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What's needed isn't youth rights, it's the US becoming a free country.

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quote:
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I thought the title said "Pray the Gay Way"

I was expecting some Gay Christian Bathhouse or something.



I have seen this thread for a couple of days now. Until you said this, I thought it said "Pray the Gay Way" as well.

I've read the title a half dozen times and missed the A in Away every time.

ACK!

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@ Bach.

And I like Beethoven too. Does that mean I'm going to hell?


No.

But God did read your drunk thread. He is not amused.

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Between communion and the miracle at Cana, I think it's a safe bet that the Lord approves of booze.

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What's needed isn't youth rights, it's the US becoming a free country.


It is. Its just free for some people (adults) and not for others (youth). It is quite a fascist state for people under 18.

Last Conformist is offline Last Conformist
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In a free country, you can't do this sort of thing. Good luck convincing me otherwise.

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Between communion and the miracle at Cana, I think it's a safe bet that the Lord approves of booze.


He does.

He does not approve of drunkenness.

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In a free country, you can't do this sort of thing. Good luck convincing me otherwise.

Yes you can. In a truly free country, you can do hatever you want with your property [/crazy libertarian]

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Yes you can. In a truly free country, you can do hatever you want with your property [/crazy libertarian]
Libertarians don't generally consider children to be property.

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He does.

He does not approve of drunkenness.


If you read the thread, there were doubts to my drunkenness.

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If the designation of a free country is reserved for only those countries for whom ALL of its citizens are free (a strict standard, but if you wann go that way, I won't argue too much), then there are NO free countries in the world.

I know of no country in the world where young people have full equal rights.

I gladly conceed the fact that things are better in Europe and elsewhere for youth than in the United States. Its a sad fact I confront every day. However being better than the US in terms of youth rights isn't such a great acheivement. You still have much ground to cover before you can meet an acceptable standard of freedom and equality for youth. Until that happens, then no country is a free country.

Of course as strong a proponent of youth rights as I am, I recognize that "free" is a relitive term, and it is unfair, to a degree, to judge a nation by future standards. If at some point a free country is one in which meet eating is deemed barbaric and illegal, then I feel it would be an unfair standard to apply today.

It also must be recognized that countries can often have schizophrenic policies toward different groups of people. As far as freedoms for adults, I'd rank the United States as one of the top in the world. As far as freedoms for youth I'd rank it as one of the worst.

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I never said anything about equality or total freedom. I don't think youth should have equal legal rights, if you recall.

But what they describe in the link in the OP is a total totalitarian disgrace.

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If you read the thread, there were doubts to my drunkenness.


If you saw him in person, there weren't.



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