27-07-2005 12:46									#31
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Morrowind is supposed to be good for mods. But I dislike mods. They just don't feel like the game how it's supposed to be played.

	27-07-2005 13:19									#32
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I used a custom mod (actually, 3 over various times). The main one was to increase the gold of certain merchants, simply because I didn't feel like waiting 24 hours before being able to sell to them again. Creeper I set to 100,000 and still managed to have more items to sell to him than he could buy. I did this to ensure certain types of items were all sold to the same merchant incase they were needed for later quests.

The other two mods were just fixes to let me finish quests the way they were intended rather than the way they were programmed.

	27-07-2005 16:13									#33
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike I agree. Morrowind is very similar to real life in many ways. There are some people who make interesting, original comments. Most people, though, just recycle the opinions of others with a slightly different wording.

But you haven't bothered to play either - Jamski told you real life was rubbish.


I've got Morrowind, but have barely played it. My friend, on the other hand, spent over 80 hours playing the Xbasket version and thoroughly enjoyed it. I'll be going back when I've got through the enormous backlog of RPGs I've got.

	30-07-2005 16:48									#34
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@Carlos, If you like open games you are free to explore in, then you should like it well enough.

And you can take Dr.Spikes naughty comments about people who like Morrowind and their dubious game preferences for what it is

Keep an open mind, expect to have to work to get the best out the game(rather than have things spoon fed to you like a baby) and enjoy how long you could be playing this game for - its an extremely rare experience these days

Its also full of interesting bugs, just a heads up

	30-07-2005 18:03									#35
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor And you can take Dr.Spikes naughty comments about people who like Morrowind and their dubious game preferences for what it is

Correct?

	30-07-2005 18:20									#36
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you'll have to play it and see first
It should be very very cheap by the time you finish your guild war journey

	30-07-2005 21:25									#37
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Up to about 300 hours now.

	01-08-2005 16:53									#38
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well if you reach 500 with no end insight, you know you will need rehab dont you?

	01-08-2005 18:30									#39
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Morrowind can be amazingly addicting if you like it.

Another great thing is that there are tons of plugins to discover. From graphics improvements to new quests to new guilds to difficulty mods there are thousands of plugins, many of which are awesome.

	01-08-2005 20:16									#40
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Cool! Got any links to these mods/plugins?

Carolus

	01-08-2005 22:00									#41
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http://morrowind.ttlg.com/ is a good site.

	01-08-2005 23:28									#42
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor well if you reach 500 with no end insight, you know you will need rehab dont you?

If that is true I've been through rehab several times.

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I have this movie of some dude who finished Morrowind in 16 minutes, mm lol
it's amazing really

	02-08-2005 09:18									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex Cool! Got any links to these mods/plugins?

www.rpgplanet.com/morrowind has a huge database but unfortunately they have a habit of including every whatnot submitted right down to the last Tassadarian house mod plomped smack in the middle of Balmora.
Separating the wheat from the chaff is an ordeal.

A few others

http://www.wizards-islands.com/wimedia.htm

http://pumaman.zftp.com/pumamods.html

http://www.thelys.org/modlist.php


One of the most important though (IMHO), is a rather small mod that gives you the ability to cast the 'recharge magicka' spell, or rather to enchant it into an item.
I've probably stuffed this up but here goes ...

http://apolyton.net/upload/view.php...ntment_0606.zip


[Edit: Bother. The page didn't link to the upload faq before I'd already uploaded it ... ravagon might've just gotten himself ]

	02-08-2005 11:26									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Traianvs I have this movie of some dude who finished Morrowind in 16 minutes, mm lol it's amazing really

Wow. Is that even possible?

	02-08-2005 12:39									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Traianvs I have this movie of some dude who finished Morrowind in 16 minutes, mm lol it's amazing really

link please.

	02-08-2005 12:40									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Wow. Is that even possible?

I'd like to know how. First of all, you'd have to kill Vivec to get those 2 items you need. Only one item must be identified or something by another person before it shows up as wraithguard.

Killing Vivec is no easy task. Though maybe if you put the difficulty down to the lowest setting you could do it at a low level. But you'd still need a good weapon to do it with.

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Jumping so he can't hit you also helps a bit. At lower levels you can't really jump much though. Hmmm.

	02-08-2005 13:13									#49
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How do you even get from Seyda Neen to Vivec though?
You have to run unless you use one of the scrolls of Icarian flight and land in the water, hopefully within reasonable swimming distance.
Ditto for the journey to 'the island' to fix wraithguard.

Then getting to ghostgate and through whichever of those Dwemer installations has 'sunder' and on through to Dagoth Ur ...

I don't think it's possible unless its been rigged somehow ...

	02-08-2005 13:21									#50
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getting to Vivec isn't that dangerous (not nearly as dangerous killing the god). And really easy if you take fast travel

not sure about the island (can't remember which one it is). But if you can kill slaughterfish (which ain't easy at level 1), then you can do it. But you have to go accross land as much as possible to do it in under 16 minutes.

The journey to ghostgate isn't too bad. I've done it at level 10. Yeah I was cheesy and stole the glass armour. I was tired of being poor. I spent it all on training and got up to level 30. I wish I wouldn't do things like that. but I hate being weak.

	02-08-2005 13:24									#51
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I've played the entire game without training at all. I'm the leader of almost all guilds too, so many of my skills have gotten quite high. But I'm insane like that.

	02-08-2005 13:31									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Dis getting to Vivec isn't that dangerous (not nearly as dangerous killing the god). And really easy if you take fast travel not sure about the island (can't remember which one it is). But if you can kill slaughterfish (which ain't easy at level 1), then you can do it. But you have to go accross land as much as possible to do it in under 16 minutes. The journey to ghostgate isn't too bad. I've done it at level 10. Yeah I was cheesy and stole the glass armour. I was tired of being poor. I spent it all on training and got up to level 30. I wish I wouldn't do things like that. but I hate being weak.

I'd forgotten about the strider to Vivec.

It isn't so much the difficulty of the other journeys involved though. it's the time required to make them.
There's no fast transport from Vivec to anywhere near the Sanitarium and nothing from there to anywhere near Ghostgate.
It's a miiighty big map without the speedy boots, unless one takes a Mage Guild transporter from Vivec to Caldera first.
Even that'd be a bit dicey timewise.

	02-08-2005 15:43									#53
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[Extreme rookie mode]

This thing with levels in RPGs... Is that about how good a certain characteristic is?

Suppose you're a wizard in some game and some abilities come with that character... You start with certain levels of those abilities and gain more via successful gameplay, is that how it works?

A cousine of mine showed me Everquest one Christmas... He was something or other in a group of players... It was both mesmerising to watch them play, but it also seemed a bit mechanic...

Before going on to another map (world?) he battled with tons of monsters (I think), while the whole group took shelter behind him and basically just waited... He said they would do that for hours...

I think that was about gaining levels to be well prepared for the next mission, right?

[/Extreme rookie mode]

Carolus

	02-08-2005 15:48									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Traianvs I have this movie of some dude who finished Morrowind in 16 minutes, mm lol

I've heard that Guild Wars is also finished off rather quickly...

Carolus

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In morrowind, you use your skills to improve them. Some people like it, some people prefer the traditional rpg experience points+level up approach. You can find lots of info in some of the links that people have posted or go to the elderscrolls website to find such info.

For me i liked being left in the dark - it enabled me to role-play my morrowind char rather than work out which setup/trick works best to get maximum effect. Morrowind isn't a hard game, so you can play it without needing to power-play(in fact its best to anti-powerplay it as you'll probably find out).

Morrowind is a fine sp rpg.

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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex I've heard that Guild Wars is also finished off rather quickly... Carolus

GW is very replayable, and the campaign should take you around 80 hours first time unless you skip a lot.

	03-08-2005 03:22									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex [Extreme rookie mode] [/Extreme rookie mode] Carolus

Wow, you really are an extreme rookie, aren't you?

Everything you assumed there is correct. How it usually works is (taking a random example) you'll start the game as a level 1 mage with a Fire magic spell at level 1. By killing monsters or completing missions you'll gain experience points. After you've accumulated enough experience points you'll advance to be a level 2 mage. This will give you the choice to increase some of your skills, so you might choose to improve your fire magic spell to level 2 (making it do more damage or something). You might alternatively choose to learn a new skill instead (like Ice magic for example).

Obviously different RPG games will work that system in different ways, but that's the general principle that drives the whole thing.

Sorry if that description was a bit too basic or sounded patronising. You said you were an extreme rookie so I went straight back to first principles.

As you may have guessed, those people hiding behind your cousin in Everquest and not doing anything were essentially cheating. At any rate they weren't playing the game the way it was meant to be played, which amounts to the same thing IMHO.

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Ok, I've installed it and played my first (extremely short) session.

I like it, but I must admit it feels overwhelming... All those races, classes, birth signs, characteristics, spells and potions (spelling?)... Phew!

I chose a Dark Elf as that's the character's race at the back cover of the box (that I liked)... I chose to answer questions to determine my class (I think?); turns out I'm "barbarian"...

Birth sign: the Lady...

I started well, I think. Found a magic ring that I returned to its lawful owner... That popped up my "charm" with that particular person and he would speak well of me with the tavern's owner...

Didn't help; I was killed when I searched a couple of baskets in there... They took me for a thief, while I was only trying to get to know the game mechanics...

Some embarrasing simple questions:

i) My hands popped out in front of me; is there a way I can "lower" them out of sight? I look like Mike Tyson running around town... Plus I would like to see the entire screen without them...

ii) I think I bought a shield in the tavern (before they killed me); how do I "wear" it? It's in the inventory, but when I click it and drop it on my character's image nothing happens...

iii) The mouse pointer moves too slow (when engaged in dialogue for example); where can I increase its speed? The only options I found in "controls" were to increase/decrease scrolling speed (ie when you take the cursor to the end of the screen and "move" your field of vision)...

Carolus

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edit: Solver answered them far better than me. No need for this post. Move along please.

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quote: i) My hands popped out in front of me; is there a way I can "lower" them out of sight? I look like Mike Tyson running around town... Plus I would like to see the entire screen without them...

Either F or R.

quote: ii) I think I bought a shield in the tavern (before they killed me); how do I "wear" it? It's in the inventory, but when I click it and drop it on my character's image nothing happens...

Click and drop on your character so that the character has it on him. It will automatically have a chance of blocking hits then.

quote: iii) The mouse pointer moves too slow (when engaged in dialogue for example); where can I increase its speed? The only options I found in "controls" were to increase/decrease scrolling speed (ie when you take the cursor to the end of the screen and "move" your field of vision)...

I can't remember whether this game had this option or not. Check if you've got the latest patches, if not, install them anyway.



Your character isn't a great one for stats, but that's actually good. Morrowind is very easy if you play it with the "get strong" mentality. You will either way notice that around level 10 you start being quite powerful, and you'll likely feel like a god before getting to level 20. That's why I use some difficulty plugins that make me killable my random critters at level 40.