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trickey
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Prince Edward Island, Canada
Mar 2002
time: 01:37
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This isn't really about different opinions on the rating change, so I thought it wouldn't hurt to make my own thread for it.
Ok, a little while ago, I went out on a whim and bought GTA San Andreas, and while it was fun in the beginning, I've grown really bored with it lately, and haven't played it in weeks. Now, when I bought it, it was rated M, but has since been changed to Adults Only. Could I use this to my advantage and force the place I bought it from to take the game back and give me my money?
Any opinions and/or factual knowledge would be helpful 
Last edited by trickey on 23-07-2005 at 05:35
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Ghidorah
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How dare they despoil a good, wholesome values-oriented game about carjacking, murder, blackmail, drug dealing, copkilling, money laundering, protection rackets, and pointless violent cycles of brutal revenge and despoil it with something so unwholesome as the human sexual act? For shame, Rockstar!
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Ted Striker
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United States of America
Jan 1970
time: 21:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Ghidorah
How dare they despoil a good, wholesome values-oriented game about carjacking, murder, blackmail, drug dealing, copkilling, money laundering, protection rackets, and pointless violent cycles of brutal revenge and despoil it with something so unwholesome as the human sexual act? For shame, Rockstar! |
That's a good point.
We are cool with violence in this country but when it comes to sex people flip out.
I like it when I play Battlefield 2 and the Administrators of a server will say, "no foul language!!!!"
Ironic the game depics killing a bunch of people. 
ps 
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Ghidorah
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quote:
Originally posted by Ted Striker
I just watched the video of the scene and it's freakin hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111
Do a search on hot coffee. |
Is it anything like the ten painful minutes of pole-dancing you have to endure to get the strip club asset in Vice City? Because I can't imagine anything less arousing.
Unless they somehow involved El Burro, of course.
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Wiglaf
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Cambridge
Dec 2000
time: 23:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Ghidorah
How dare they despoil a good, wholesome values-oriented game about carjacking, murder, blackmail, drug dealing, copkilling, money laundering, protection rackets, and pointless violent cycles of brutal revenge and despoil it with something so unwholesome as the human sexual act? For shame, Rockstar! |
The rationale is that sex is more accessible than mass murder, in large part because you don't need to be a lunatic to have sex.
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Ghidorah
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Originally posted by Wiglaf
The rationale is that sex is more accessible than mass murder, in large part because you don't need to be a lunatic to have sex. |
Well that's all very true, but what does that have to do with censoring a game for showing sex?
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DRoseDARs
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"My god, it's full of peas..."
Jul 2002
time: 21:37
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Well, it's happened: Someone has brought forth a frivolous lawsuit. 
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050727-5143.html
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Grandma sues Rockstar Games
7/27/2005 9:09:19 PM, by Ken "Caesar" Fisher
It was only a matter of time, and the woodpecker has popped out from the clock: a civil suit against Rockstar has been launched seeking unspecified damages as a result of the entire Hot Coffee fiasco. The suit alleges that Rockstar and its parent company, Take-Two Interactive, engaged in misleading and deceptive practices in packaging and selling Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. The suit was brought on behalf of consumers by Florence Cohen, aged 85, of New York. And I know you guys are going to love this one:
Grandma bought the game for her grandson. Her 14-year old grandson.
When it rains it pours for Take-Two, who was notified only yesterday that the Federal Trade Commission was investigating the situation. The inquiry comes after the US House of Representatives voted 355-21 in favor of a resolution mandating the FTC to get their hands dirty with this.
As I've made clear in previous posts, I think the ESRB took the right action in sanctioning the game, and making demands of Rockstar. Anything that threatens the integrity of an industry-backed, non-profit ratings system brings us that much closer to government control of such things, and I don't think that will benefit anyone. Then again, if an adult buys a game rated for kids 17 and above, then gives it to a kid that's less than 17 years of age, it's a little hard to keep a straight face. Some would say the problems are all Grandma's.
There is, however, a logical side to this that's hard to argue against if we drop the drama for a minute. Ratings, be they for movies or for games, are as much about what is not in the game/movie as they are about what's in them. The ratings system moves from the "OK for everyone" side of the spectrum to the "OK for only a select few," establishing outposts (as it were) that dictate what can and cannot be in a movie or game. We can ask all kinds of sociology questions about what kind of society we live in when simulated violence is so welcome but sex isn't, but when we get back to Realpolitik, we see that she has a case. The rating justifiably told her what's not in the game as well (and we have no what of knowing if she actually looked), and Rockstar is going to have a tough fight on their hands with scores of angry parents. The big question on my mind is whether or not a civil court will consider the simulated, interactive sex minigame as part of the game or not, given the need to modify the game to get to the game's hidden content. |
Casting a wider net, I really wish that there were consequences for the people that file lawsuits and lose if the judge/jury determines that the case in question is frivolous. That would put a quick end to constant litigation and allow serious cases more opportunity to be addressed by a currently over-burdened legal system.
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