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Solver
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Apolyton Duke Of Something
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
time: 07:37
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I just thought the Apolytoner sexual minorities (although gays aren't quite a minority here  ) would find this interesting.
In Riga today, the first gay & lesbian march in the Baltic states took place, amid protests.
BBC report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4711261.stm
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Latvian police have arrested protesters after they shouted insults and threw eggs at people taking part in the Baltic state's first gay pride march.
The few dozen marchers were outnumbered by hundreds of protesters who blocked the narrow streets of the capital.
Police were forced to alter the march route and to form a chain around the parade participants to protect them.
The march had sparked outrage in Latvia and only went ahead after a court overturned a council ban on the event.
Officials said that six of the protesters had been detained for their part in disrupting the march.
Prime Minister Aigars Kalvitis had opposed the event, saying Riga should "not promote things like that".
"For sexual minorities to parade in the very heart of Riga, next to the Doma church, is unacceptable," he told LNT television on Wednesday.
One of those who took part in Saturday's march, 61-year-old Lars-Peter Sjouberg, from Sweden, said he had been shocked by the offensive remarks made by protesters.
"Protesters here were really aggressive [...] but it won't stop me from helping my Latvian friends fight for their rights." |
Yup, this has been a rather active topic over here lately, with people arguing about whether it should be allowed or not - it was indeed banned, but the court overruled that.
For photos, go to http://www.apollo.lv/portal/articles/52368 , and click the words "Attelu galerija" under the first photo.
Waiting for an Asher sighting  .
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Bereta_Eder
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there was the first gay parade in athens not so long ago. no incidents and it was done with the sponsorship of the municipality. that caused some people to go out on the chanels and say some stuff. yeah gays and lesbians are going full throttle around here claiming their rights. which is good, they have been taking a lot of crap about them being gay. there was a series of news shows done about gay rights. it all started when a lawyer beat up a gay activist because the later claimed that the laweyer was a gay and he hided it. so he beat him up. hello?! then he claimed he was justifiably enraged. didnt hold out too good. you know, you're a lawyer?! you shouldnt go around beating people? that's all good and fine, that the gays are taking full offensive (although i dislike categorizing people as gays or not, i prefer the dumbs and the not dumbs classification). i say give them full rights to marry but not having children, unless many studies are done on the subject. i'm not convinced gayism is genetic and i suspect there's a personality abnormality hiding there, sometimes. not always. that's all fine and good for you but not for raising children. that doesnt mean that a person who is not gay will be a good parent either but the goal is to minimize unwanted exposure to the kid. so there have to be a looooot of studies before anything of that sort is considered. but for marriage i'm all for it. no harm.
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Bereta_Eder
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quote:
Originally posted by Solver
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i'm not convinced gayism is genetic and i suspect there's a personality abnormality hiding there, sometimes. not always. that's all fine and good for you but not for raising children. |
The reason I'm weary of gay couples having children is not because I think gays are abnormal, less likely to make good parents or anything - I quite disagree with that. I believe, though, that a child needs two parents, a father and a mother, to grow up in the best possible way. I'm not really sure whether having two parents of the same gender is good for a child. |
yeah there's that too. that's also very important. to clarify, i dont think they are "abnormal" (who's normal? what's normal?) I think some have a condition that is close to that of pathological narcisism. I consider that like some kind of personality abnormality. again not judging and saying "that's bad" or "that's good". what I am saying is that this is probably detrimental to have when wanting to raise a child. again not all of them. some and it's not a judgement but an observation.
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Zkribbler
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Los Angeles, CA, USA
Feb 1999
time: 21:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Solver
I believe, though, that a child needs two parents, a father and a mother, to grow up in the best possible way. I'm not really sure whether having two parents of the same gender is good for a child. |
You're assuming, of course, there's a surfeit of Ozzie-and-Harriet families out there to be adopted into. There's not.
So for the orphan, choose one of the following:
(a) growing up with a gay or lesbian family
(b) growing up in an orphanage, or being shuffled from foster home to foster home.
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Solver
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Apolyton Duke Of Something
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
time: 07:37
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I'm sure that an orphan who is, say, 4 years old or older would gladly grow up with gays or lesbians - who can obviously be as good or as bad parents as straight people. For a toddler, though, I am not sure if a gay family would be healthy - because the child wouldn't understand it at that point, and would lack attention from the other gender. That might lead to hard-to-predict situations, perhaps.
Assuming that to adopt a child the child's consent is needed (as it often is, and should be, the case), I can easily see how growing up in a gay family is better than an orphanage. Then again, I think that good gay parents should not forget or hesitate to explain to their child why they're two of the same gender, as well as show that it's not an extremely common thing.
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24-07-2005 02:41
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It's a start, but y'need to work on those number.
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