25-07-2005 01:48									#1
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Would you hit the button to change to an alternate reality where Firaxis chose SMAC 2 as the game being released in Nov.?

Or would you lay off the button, sit back and type a thank you email to Firaxis for choosing to make Civ 4 instead?

I choose SMAC 2.

	25-07-2005 01:57									#2
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Better stick with Civ 4.

What if my mother was killed in the alternate reality before I was born? Would my vote in this poll even count?

	25-07-2005 02:17									#3
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both

	25-07-2005 02:19									#4
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Ditto.

	25-07-2005 02:21									#5
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Never got into SMAC. Civ IV all the way.

	25-07-2005 02:21									#6
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I want both too, but push to shove...it's SMAC 2 for me.

	25-07-2005 02:25									#7
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SMAC 2, but without Brian running it, I think it would fail to impress.

	25-07-2005 02:28									#8
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good point, perhaps that should have been a stipulation.

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actually, the main reason for this poll was because I just started playing the game again and it dawned on me how enjoyable it is in most respects.

As I was playing, I noticed how some parts of the game are most certainly outdated and could use an upgrade...hence my alternate reality poll...to see how many agreed with me.

It seems like SMAC 2 should have been next. We had Civ 3, I would have liked SMAC2 then Civ 4, etc..

Or even a simultaneous release.

I get the feeling that SMAC is getting pushed to the back burner in favor of Civ.

And I guess I can see why. Civ is more famous of a franchise and can make more money I guess.

It just hurts to see such a worthy game rot.

	25-07-2005 02:37									#10
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Civ was the original and will draw a larger audience, so of course they'll push that over SMAC2.

I always liked Civ better anyway

	25-07-2005 02:40									#11
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I think it's the sci-fi "futuristic" aspect that makes SMAC edge Civ out for me.

I love the reality of civ, but when smac came out, the sci-fi aspect was intriguing. (sp?)

	25-07-2005 02:43									#12
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Well, on the Firaxis site there is this bit:

quote: Question: Do you think there will be a follow up to Alpha Centauri? I just restarted playing it - after having been able to NOT play for a few years - and here we go again; all-nighters when my alarm clock tells me to go to work or get some sleep. Sid: We get lots of requests from fans asking us to make another Alpha Centauri…and we’ve been talking about it quite a bit lately. So…it’s definitely a possibility down the road. Go get those Spartans!

	25-07-2005 02:45									#13
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That's good news Yin. I fall into that guys category.

I still think it's a pipe dream though.

	25-07-2005 03:33									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Donegeal Never got into SMAC. Civ IV all the way.

	25-07-2005 03:42									#15
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I realize that posting this poll in this forum is kind of like walking into the lions den, but this is the most appropriate place.

I contemplated putting it in the AC forum, and I might, but this still seemed like the place.

I love Civ. and smac. I suck at 'em, but I love 'em.

	25-07-2005 04:15									#16
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I want both. But if I have to choose I´ll take Civ4. I don´t think that SMAC 2 will be a worthy sequel without Brian.

	25-07-2005 04:20									#17
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Civ4.

But I wouldn't mind SMAC2, if they could finally change the atrocious palette

	25-07-2005 04:32									#18
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I liked smac, but for the graphics and the pathetic ai. the prototypical example of a game having so many features that the human can use but the AI has no clue, thus a walk in the park to win.

	25-07-2005 05:10									#19
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what was it about the pallette and/or graphivs for time that you didn't like?

I know i'm a minority on this, but I liked the dark anture.

	25-07-2005 05:16									#20
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Nope, in my reality Colonization 2 would follow Civ 4. I don't need a follow up to Alpha Centauri.

	25-07-2005 05:19									#21
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I have SMAC, but I never reached the same I had playing Civ.
Civ IV, but not in a sectary way.

	25-07-2005 05:35									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Aro I have SMAC, but I never reached the same I had playing Civ. Civ IV, but not in a sectary way.

thanks for the honest input.

I will definitely buy civ4!!!

But, I wanted to see how many CIV lovers long for a Smac 2. I am a CIV lover.


I'm wondering what made those who thought Smac 1 was worthwhile all of a sudden think Smac 2 wasn't worth the time...

Did Smac not do well in sales?

	25-07-2005 06:25									#23
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quote: Originally posted by vee4473 what was it about the pallette and/or graphivs for time that you didn't like? I know i'm a minority on this, but I liked the dark anture.

Too much red, IIRC. Was just annoying to me.

	25-07-2005 07:26									#24
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quote: Originally posted by vee4473 thanks for the honest input. I will definitely buy civ4!!! But, I wanted to see how many CIV lovers long for a Smac 2. I am a CIV lover. I'm wondering what made those who thought Smac 1 was worthwhile all of a sudden think Smac 2 wasn't worth the time... Did Smac not do well in sales?

I don't really see a lack of interest in a SMAC2. It looks to me like people would just like to see Civ4 first. That may be partly because of the exciting previews or just personal preference. Either way, I see good market potential for SMAC2 at Apolyton. We'll just have to wait and see if the rest of the game community will agree.

	25-07-2005 07:35									#25
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Civ IV definitely.

Its not that I'm not interested in seeing SMAC 2 (I loved SMAC and a sequel would definitely be a good thing), but...

1. I'm looking forward to Civ IV far more the more I see of it.

2. I'd like to see a Colonization II before SMAC II.

	25-07-2005 10:06									#26
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It is interesting that I am reading only SciFi and fantasy books for pleasure, I prefer to watch SciFi movies, but I never got into SMAC. The reasons:

1) Non-descriptive technologies. "By researching this I am getting what better armor or new building? Can't even guess"
2) Units. "This unit has what armor? a photon? Is this because it is white? And is it good armor?..."
3) Design workshop " Where is that design 46? Scroll, scroll..."

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quote: Originally posted by MxM It is interesting that I am reading only SciFi and fantasy books for pleasure, I prefer to watch SciFi movies, but I never got into SMAC. The reasons: 1) Non-descriptive technologies. "By researching this I am getting what better armor or new building? Can't even guess" 2) Units. "This unit has what armor? a photon? Is this because it is white? And is it good armor?..." 3) Design workshop " Where is that design 46? Scroll, scroll..."

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Both.

	25-07-2005 12:26									#29
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quote: Originally posted by vee4473 what was it about the pallette and/or graphivs for time that you didn't like? I know i'm a minority on this, but I liked the dark anture.

too dark. I wish it looked like that wonder movie. You know the one where Deirdre is talking and the camera is moving fast over the landscape of Planet. The red fungus looks bright red there, I like that look over the dark red.

I still love the game though. The gameplay is amazing.

And that's an example of a game with more complexity. Sure it makes the AI not as good. But I don't care. At least there are many more intersting things to do in that game over civ3. Civ3 was just too limiting. I liked the game, but got bored of it sooner than I had hoped.

	25-07-2005 14:21									#30
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I'm eager to get Civ4 into my hand, but I liked SMAC a lot, too - it was the novelty, I guess... playing somewhere else than on earth, disover new things. I'd definitely like to see a follow-up there too.

I guess the answer depends on what we would be able to do by altering reality... could I put Brian back on SMAC 2's team and have them use the Civ4 engine and give them part of Bill Gate's fortune for development so they could hire a few renowned artists to contribute to the SMAC world?

If all that were possible, I'd choose SMAC.

But then I could also add a second team to work on Civ4 at the same time... Which would in turn open tremendous possibilites - imagine playing a Civ4 game, and in the end you launch the spaceship to Alpha Centauri... you would then seamlessly switch to SMAC 2 and continue playing there. Aaaaah, yesssss