28-07-2005 00:56									#1
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Well...it seems there are far more women than men down under, so perhaps you single guys should head that way

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm...jectID=10337789

	28-07-2005 00:58									#2
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it's cos all the ozzy geezers are working in bars over here!

	28-07-2005 00:59									#3
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Molly's wisdom is proven, once again.

yes, oz is the first place to visit outside the old world.

	28-07-2005 01:09									#4
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I love them womens.

	28-07-2005 01:13									#5
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Of course there are no real men there, I left and I was the last one.

	28-07-2005 01:21									#6
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I really wonder whether these places will have a more matriarchal society. I used to think that we were moving to a more matriarchal society in the US, but as I grow older and experience more in life, it becomes clearer to me that even though there is a good measure of equality in our society, it is still and probably forever will be patriachal.

	28-07-2005 01:31									#7
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it mentioned that in the article...

	28-07-2005 02:01									#8
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Yes it did. You could read my "I really wonder whether" as "I really doubt that."

	28-07-2005 03:33									#9
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Of course by real men Agathon means sheep shaggers

	28-07-2005 03:34									#10
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It's a sad state of affairs for a country when the philosophers can claim themselves to be the manliest of the lot.

	28-07-2005 03:37									#11
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already bought my plane tickets. I'm leaving tomorrow.

if I don't get laid, I'm blaming you Kaak.

	28-07-2005 03:40									#12
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I didn't read the entire article (call me lazy). But I'm curious. Why are there more women than men? Or is it just 30 something men as the article initially suggests?

Being as these are fairly recent countries in their existance, I would still expect a heavy male population. In the american west, especially in the state of Nevada. We have a much higher male population than female population. One main reason is mining is our dominant industry (not including gaming/tourism). This was the reason why prostitution was legalized. Throughout america's history, there have always been women shortages throghout the western U.S. And there still are today.

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When Navy ships stop their for port visits the local girls fling themselves over barriers to get to the peir. Not all ugly popers either. In fact quite the opposite.

	28-07-2005 03:45									#14
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that's what I've always heard. But I have trouble believing it.

That's why I always wanted west coast navy, so I can go to Australia. . But even then, I doubt I would get laid. In all the European countries (and middle eastern), women ignored me as they do in the U.S. And they cleaned up places like Naples, Italy. I used to hear they had prostitutes everywhere. I didn't see any there, the 2 times I was there. So I couldn't even get that if I had wanted it.

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The Australian thing is true. If we were following the ROE we probobly should have mowed them down with machine guns for rushing the ECP.

Okay, not really

Cartagena Spain had all kinds of sluts. Good time.

The Middle Eastern woman ignored you because you didn't offer them money. Almost every woman I saw at a resturant/lobby/club was whore on the UAE/Bahrain. It got annoying.

The respectable woman don't go out.

	28-07-2005 04:10									#16
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Dude, it's a fricking muslim country!

	28-07-2005 04:40									#17
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quote: Dude, it's a fricking muslim country!

Exactly, and all the whores you meet are Indian, various Africans, and Burmese/Thai.

Half Bahrains populous are foriegn nationals.

	28-07-2005 04:46									#18
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All the ozzy guys are over here selling their bodys to medical science so they can go get trashed for the 3 months between expirements

	28-07-2005 04:50									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Dis already bought my plane tickets. I'm leaving tomorrow. if I don't get laid, I'm blaming you Kaak.

If not, I guess that you can borrow one of Aghatons famil.. ehrm, sheeps

	28-07-2005 06:00									#20
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Its Evolution's course.

Don't you see? Women are the future.

How many women do you see behave like real men? As compared to gay/(and even non gay) men who act like women.

Ahh.. That will make you think.

	28-07-2005 06:14									#21
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quote: "The problem is that at 23 or 24 a young male is going to form a relationship: fine if that relationship is short term, but the male generally stays in the home country of the female, or he falls in love with an English girl and brings her back, so you've still lost a singe male."

Ok, I just read the article; the reason I left the country is because 1. It is boring in New Zealand when you have lived there for 20 years, NZ does not change very quickly. If you are retiring, and you live in a city, then retire to New Zealand. Seriously.

And 2. The women in NZ and AUS (Yes, I know all about Australia, what NZ'er wouldn't?) are annoying as hell. They're *****y, controlling, and thanks to Britney Spears, most are slutty tarts.

	28-07-2005 06:32									#22
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Not all are controlling. The other comments are quite fair though.

	28-07-2005 08:33									#23
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there are biological imperatives at work according to recent research- men and women tend to look for sexual partners outside their familiar gene pool for evolutionary reasons - we are hard wired to see difference as attractive because it leads to healthier genetic offspring - but not necessarily different race.

So when US ships come to Australia local women act in ways that they don't with the locals. Its the same when Australian navy ships go to the US.

Another big factor is feminism which is very strong in Australia and New Zealand. This makes many local women a bit of a turn off to local men if they were honest about it. No so much because they disagree with women's rights but the locals can be very obnoxious about it. otoh, the independence of local women might be attractive to outsiders.

	28-07-2005 09:31									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Another big factor is feminism which is very strong in Australia and New Zealand. This makes many local women a bit of a turn off to local men if they were honest about it. No so much because they disagree with women's rights but the locals can be very obnoxious about it. otoh, the independence of local women might be attractive to outsiders.

Cha-ching! That just about sums up what I look for in a woman. Someone who isn't all (I need you ALL the time) or the infamous "but...why?.....why?....why?....why? (ad naseum)"

Aussie women are cool in that they're like one of the boys, but yet...they aint.

I just want to go to Australia because of the US exchange rate...it's supposed to be favorable for the US.

	28-07-2005 09:33									#25
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I agree with Horse on all counts.

	28-07-2005 09:46									#26
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Independence is fine but I can tell you the feminist "me" stuff - my education, my career, my friends, my body, my biological clock, my children, my crippling divorce settlement - can really get on your nerves after a while.

But have fun while you can.

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One might think NZ and Oz would encourage immigration to overcome the problem.

	28-07-2005 10:12									#28
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we have up to 200,000 people migrating here per year. That's 1% of pop being added every year, which is substantial.

This is cute, population to the minute

quote: On 28 July 2005 at 15:15:51 (Canberra time), the resident population of Australia is projected to be: 20,369,580 This projection is based on the estimated resident population at 31 December 2004 and assumes growth since then of: one birth every 2 minutes and 4 seconds, one death every 3 minutes and 53 seconds, a net gain of one international migrant every 4 minutes and 10 seconds leading to an overall total population increase of one person every 2 minutes and 9 seconds. These assumptions are consistent with those used for Series B in Population Projections, Australia 2002 to 2101 (cat. no. 3222.0).

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs%...63?OpenDocument

a net gain of one migrant every 4 minutes gives you some idea of the pace of immigration here - and we've doing it since WWII.

	28-07-2005 10:15									#29
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You aren't poaching the right ones.

You should be advertising for immigrants on college campuses. 'We' steal yours, you steal 'ours'.

Christ, you could depopulate the next generation of Canadian engineers and doctors if they knew they could get jobs, a tan year round, and there was more than plenty of Shielas to go around.

	28-07-2005 11:01									#30
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Our pay rate down here is what drives our people away. They can pay their student loans back quicker if they move overseas plus they just generally earn more. Tis good incentive. However the coming election is shaping up to be a bit of a student bribe.