28-07-2005 23:15									#1
	How early is too early to start planning for a Civ4 demo game? Increase the size of your Attachments

I think that about 2 weeks before the game should be on shelves would be a perfect time to start planning for a game.

Sure, noone will have played it yet and we'd all be pretty unprepared for what meets us, however....

i find demo-games kinda boring when everyone involved already knows the perfect tactics for every scenario. I think it'd be more fun to discover the game as we play it and make some of those fun mistakes.

people interested:

Ninot
Aro
Nimitz
Spiffor
Alex

Last edited by Ninot on 29-07-2005 at 19:10

	28-07-2005 23:25									#2
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Although I'd surely participate, I'd advise against it. I'm sure there would be a few game-breaking bugs, imbalances, and exploits that won't be fixed until the next couple of patches. Playing with that kind of game in a serious demo-game would not go well.

	28-07-2005 23:27									#3
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yeah, it woulda never worked in the case of say Civ3 cuz in the late game the air forces woulda been broken, not to mention other things.

Well heres to hoping civ 4 doesnt have bugs

Honestly tho, i'd be psyched if we could get a demo-game going on the original release, even if it was just a small group.

	29-07-2005 00:28									#4
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I'm in!

Excellent opportunity to really experience the game without any prejudice.
Nobody knows nothing!

	29-07-2005 00:44									#5
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FWIU it might be possible to actually make a demogame mod (hacking multiplayer). That would be incredibly cool.

	29-07-2005 00:50									#6
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it definately would be Kuci.

put in different coop spots for Foreign Minister, Minister of Defence, Minister of so on so on

and put in a spectator ability for anyone who didnt get elected

would be real fun

	29-07-2005 10:22									#7
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I'd be in for an early DG. But, then I'm in for most civ DGing

	29-07-2005 12:04									#8
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Two weeks before would be a good idea: we'd know the civs and the leaders, we could write an early constitution, and we could decide on the general setup of the game.

And as soon as Civ4 ships, ROCK ON!

	29-07-2005 18:50									#9
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Hey, this is actually a good idea: a demo game where everyone is still discovering things about the game.

	31-07-2005 13:12									#10
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so when do we pick civs?

I say start discussing constitution ASAP

	31-07-2005 19:22									#11
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I'd say this is way too early.

	02-08-2005 00:43									#12
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just hoping for a well rounded, thought out constitution

	02-08-2005 07:58									#13
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demo games actually can spoil you the real one, so let's wait until the very end

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quote: Originally posted by Ninot it definately would be Kuci. put in different coop spots for Foreign Minister, Minister of Defence, Minister of so on so on and put in a spectator ability for anyone who didnt get elected would be real fun

I'm thinking more of hacking the persistent PBEM mode to have in-game voting and maybe even a sort of forums.

You could even add a fleshed-out $minigame.

	02-08-2005 10:26									#15
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Actually, now that I think about it, if we were able to mod Civ IV to make it more demo-game friendly, then I'd play.

	05-08-2005 15:57									#16
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so shall we but pen to paper then wait for the release
and see what powers lay in modding?

	06-08-2005 09:21									#17
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I'm with LN, worrying about bugs early on making the game unplayable at turn 30, two months into the game

	07-08-2005 01:41									#18
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its not just putting down the ideas

its getting all those involved in agreeing (it can happen)

	17-09-2005 12:02									#19
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still to early

	17-09-2005 12:33									#20
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It's never too early to plan and discuss, as long as you recognize that everything is subject to change when you actually GET the game.

While I have often been enjoyed reading demogame reports, I have never participated in one and do not yet intend to.

	19-09-2005 10:25									#21
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While I'm a diehard MP player at heart, we(the ladder) have taken part in the C3C ISDG and I did enjoy that aspect of a "slow" MP game.

I might suggest that you consider the Persistant Turn-Based Server, better known as "Pitboss" for a DG format.

A player with a permenant internet coonetion could be the host and then an team member with the pw could just login to look at the turn after the turn has been played, and no saves need be sent.

Just a thought to take advantage of a new feature of CIV.

CS

	19-09-2005 12:55									#22
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* alva feels the winds Gathering...

	20-09-2005 06:53									#23
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General(or President Aggie if you like) Aggie reporting for duty. When do we convert the other countries to our enlightened ways(or kill them trying).

Aggie

	20-09-2005 06:57									#24
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quote: Originally posted by alva * alva feels the winds Gathering...

We can see how 'TTA' does against me in round 2.

	20-09-2005 07:05									#25
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	20-09-2005 07:20									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Although I'd surely participate, I'd advise against it. I'm sure there would be a few game-breaking bugs, imbalances, and exploits that won't be fixed until the next couple of patches. Playing with that kind of game in a serious demo-game would not go well.

QFT

i wouldnt participate in a demo game,but if it was a team demo game id be tempted more.humans are much funner to munch than AI's

	20-09-2005 09:36									#27
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quote: We can see how 'TTA' does against me in round 2.

Come join Neo-Legoland... that way your can plot your vengenace from behind our smokescreen of... er... vengeance. Hrm...

	20-09-2005 10:47									#28
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If we did a 'singleplayer' DG, at least we'd be safe from any exploits, etc - they would only unbalance the game if we played a multi-team DG.

I'd be worried that i'd have to end up with two installs of civ though, once the patches start coming out.

	20-09-2005 11:58									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Trip We can see how 'TTA' does against me in round 2.

I think we both know the answer to this.