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Oh please... I wonder how much Fox is paying this bozo...

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Proposed Legislation Aims at Nielsen People Meter System
July 28, 2005

By Ira Teinowitz
WASHINGTON (AdAge.com) -- A key senator on the Commerce Committee yesterday said he would push ahead with legislation that would effectively make the federal government a regulator of media ratings accuracy.

Sen. Conrad Burns is proposing legislation that would give the federal government oversight authority for the accuracy of media ratings systems.

“We are going to move. ... We are going to move forward on the legislation,” said Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont., after a hearing of the Senate Commerce Committee “It may change in form a little [but] Nielsen needs some kind of effective oversight.”

Mr. Burns referred to Nielsen Media Research, a unit of VNU, which for years has supplied networks, media buys and advertisers with ratings of most consumed media. Nielsen is looking to replace its current paper-based method of tracking audience viewership with an electronic system known as the local people meter in major markets.

Divisive technology
The local people meters have been divisive, scorned by the larger broadcast companies such as Fox Broadcasting Co., Tribune Broadcasting Co. and Gannett Co., while praised by the ad industry and smaller broadcasters for providing quicker local ratings and more audience data.

Mr. Burns' legislation, which is supported by Fox, requires TV ratings systems to be accredited before they are used. The bill would give the Media Rating Council, a private, nonprofit industry association established to ensure that measurement services are valid, a government role in conducting the accreditation.

Fox has been upset with Nielsen’s introduction of local people meters, arguing the technology undercounts minority viewers and shouldn’t be used until its accredited by the MRC. The complaining broadcasters allege Nielsen is in a rush to “monetize” people meters and have called on Congress to ensure Nielsen acts in the public interest, claiming the new meters undercount minority viewers in major markets, such as New York and Los Angeles.

FTC keeps out of debate
The Federal Trade Commission in April said it will not get involved with or monitor Nielsen Media Research's rollout of the new measuring system. The FTC said the best approach to any monitoring problems is a voluntary one through the Media Ratings Council. Nielsen has been working with the council since launching the system in Los Angeles last year.


Ad groups and media buyers, who have been largely on the sidelines, are now warning against government involvement, claiming the legislation could seriously damage ratings, delay improvements and prevent new competition. They also say any problems are better handled by private industry negotiations.

All those views came out in yesterday's hearing, which also had some elements of theater as both sides rushed out packets of information and dueling minority ministers -- the Rev. Jesse Jackson on behalf of Nielsen, and the Rev. Jacques DeGraff, pastor of New York’s Canaan Baptist Church, for the Don’t Count Us Out Coalition, which was formed to oppose the local people meters.

Advertisers have been waiting
“Advertisers have been waiting for 15 years to get daily ratings,” said Kathy Crawford, president of local broadcast for WPP Group's MindShare.
“I am very concerned that this bill will make it harder for clients to buy advertising with any confidence that they are spending their money wisely [and] will turn back the clock on the progress we have made in developing an effective TV ratings system.”

She also complained that the legislation gives too much authority to the Media Ratings Council, whose voting procedures, she said, needs “to be seriously overhauled.”

Pat Mullen, CEO of Tribune Broadcasting, complained that after Nielsen introduced people meters in New York, it rolled them out in Philadelphia and Washington before rectifying problems showing up in New York.

“In the absence of competition, we are left to plead for fair treatment and reliable results. Time and time again, Nielsen has turned us away,” he said. “The keys to our success—our ratings—are held by a monopoly.”

Nielsen's president-CEO, Susan Whiting, said Nielsen has agreed that additional people meter markets audits will be completed before the switch from the old paper method to the new technology is made.

Don't slow ratings innovation
“Given the progress we have made and the inherent conflicts within the industry, we do not believe legislation is necessary or advisable. In fact, we feel it is unwarranted and harmful,” she said. It “would slow ratings innovation to a crawl. Vital new systems for measuring all forms of digital television could remain idle while MRC members debated.”

Mr. Burns, for his part, said his proposed legislation has produced some of its desired effect in getting both sides to work closer together and suggested at one point that he would still prefer voluntary industry moves.


The FTC has taken the only logical approach, but Burns must be already paid and bought off by FOX to be pushing this one. What business is it of government when it come to the television rating system...

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Burns must be looking for a payoff from industry. Watch the campaign contributions!

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Thank you Rockstar Games for starting this mess.

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don't blame rockstar, blame grandstanding politicians

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uh, different kinds of ratings.

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So true... as LOM points out.

Nothing worse than seeing the networks trying to get government to do their dirty work for them. I see big bucks in Burns future if he pulls this crap off

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I had no idea that the people were clamoring for such a thing.

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The only parties interested in this are the TV networks... Fox in particular. They are using their muscle to have government step in to a place they don't belong. An Independent Council has already been established to do just this... and Nielsen has voluntarily agreed to work with them to make sure it's fair...

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I know its big brother-esque, but I'm rather surprised cable and satellite companies have no way of tracking how many people are watching Animal Planet (for ex.) at any particular time.

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I'm sure they have a way, they just don't use it . . . yet.

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I know its big brother-esque, but I'm rather surprised cable and satellite companies have no way of tracking how many people are watching Animal Planet (for ex.) at any particular time.


The interconnect companies that distribute the networks could put some kind of tracking in place, but only in areas where the technology allows it. But they have no reason to do so... And there is no way the interconnect companies would share their data. The actual networks, like ESPN, CNN, and all, don't really control the distribution of their product. They have "deals" in place with all the different interconnect companies to distribute their network.

So Cable Networks, like their Over the Air counterparts must depend on independent rating services like Nielsen. Plus, advertisers wouldn't believe numbers supplied by the Networks, since the cost of advertising is based on the ratings... and they would lie to us to get the most money possible

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