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JohnT
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Capitalist
Mar 1999
time: 00:37
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And it's not like this is a new concept. I was watching an old Van Heflin movie the other day, The Strange Love of Martha Ivers (1946) where he and Barbara Stanwyck checked into a motel (but separate rooms!) Anyway, she was feeling upset in regards to her role in a murder and the following exchange (paraphrased) occurred:
"Look what I found in my dresser" Holds up a Gideon Bible, face outward "Could it be a sign?"
"No, baby, they put Bibles in every hotel room." Van goes to his room, opens the drawer, pulls out his rooms' copy "See?"
"Why do they do that?"
"The Gideons put Bibles in hotels all across the country, all across the world. Why, there's probably not a single hotel room anywhere without a Gideons Bible!"
"They do good work, don't they?"
Now that was blatant!
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child of Thor
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Are we looking forward to it in Civ4? 
in the old game 'Mercenry' http://www.mobygames.com/game/mercenary , you had what i think were the first in-game advertisments i can remember.
In the Atari version you had C64 signs you could destroy in the game, and the other way around for the C64 version. It was fine in the context.
Last edited by child of Thor on 30-07-2005 at 17:40
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Ming
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quote:
Originally posted by mrmitchell
If advertising significantly lowered the price I pay of a video game or movie without compromising its quality, I would support it, but I doubt that will happen...
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Yeah... probably won't happen 
The best way for advertising to be accepted is when it comes with a value to the customer. Network TV is free because of the ads... some people may not like that, and many find ways to avoid them, but most people accept the trade off. Web sites that are free and provide value, can also get away with ads. Advertising keeps the price of magazines and newspaper MUCH lower, so people accept the ads...
On the other hand, I get pissed when I pay to go see a movie, and they subject me to ads before the movie. The good news is, I know I can be late to a movie, because all I miss are the ads and trailers
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snoopy369
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Of the Peanuts Gallery
Apr 2004
time: 23:37
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quote:
Originally posted by mactbone
I railed against this in a Madden forum. Madden games include an Old Spice "red zone" and the Pontiac Drive summary or something. These are utterly pointless and don't reduce the cost of a game that is basically the same from year to year. |
If the price is basically the same from year to year - and from what I recall, the most recent Madden dropped significantly in price shortly after release, about $10 or so and another $15 not really that long after (partly due to ESPN's game, but probably not entirely) - doesn't that mean it's reducing the cost? Inflation is non-zero at the moment, meaning a similarly priced game from year to year actually costs less in real dollars ... 
quote: originally posted by mactbone
So I don't understand why we as consumers should put up with this and why more people don't think about this and realize how jipped we are. |
Put up with it? How can we NOT put up with it? What option do you have (other than not playing the game at all, feel free, but most of us need our football )
quote: originally posted by mactbone
I don't buy that those advertisements make the game more realistic. Sports label brands and licensing on stadiums make the games more realistic, Old Spice and Pontiac don't.
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Actually, I like it when they have the sponsored postgame shows and whatnot. It indeed makes it more realistic; just as on TV there is the Pontiac Postgame Report, so does my video game. It doesn't really get in the way, and it sounds just like Fox or whatever ...
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JohnT
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Capitalist
Mar 1999
time: 00:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Ming
On the other hand, I get pissed when I pay to go see a movie, and they subject me to ads before the movie. The good news is, I know I can be late to a movie, because all I miss are the ads and trailers |
The worst example of this, so dastardly it had to come from the mind of an evil galactic warlord, is Regal Cinema's "The Twenty."
Seventeen TV commercials wrapped around three promotions for upcoming TV shows, all packaged together as its own entertainment product. At the end of it, the audience is breathlessly exhorted to "come earlier" if they "didn't catch all of the Twenty." This is before the lights go down and the commercials/trailers start.
Jesus wept. And threw a hissy fit.
However, one caveat: I like trailers and consider them part of the movie-going experience. But commercials....? Yuck.
The worst one nowadays is that Coca-Cola promotion that involves the four teenage "movie-makers" who are touring America to show the crazy-sexy-cool inventiveness of today's youth. One of the quotes in the movie goes along the lines of "We're real teens making this documentary to show other real teens in their real environment." Ozzy would be proud.
However... Most 'real teens' I know don't have million dollar contracts with Coca-Cola that essentially whore their movie out as nothing more than one giant product placement. I mean, when was the last time any of us went to a party in high school where everyone was holding a Coke product while dancing? 
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