01-08-2005 06:16									#1
	Paradox Interactive tries to bring "Diplomacy" a PC near you... Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

... and not have it suck (like the 1999 Microprose game did).

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/diplomacy-2005/636313p1.html

Official Site:

http://www.diplomacy-pcgame.com/

If anyone can do this, I'd say Paradox has a good claim. Right now, they seem to appreciate strategy gaming and have a good reverence for the classic board game.

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	01-08-2005 07:50									#2
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I wish them luck, though Diplomacy is one of those games that are extremely difficult to write a decent AI for.

	01-08-2005 08:39									#3
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I sure hope they improve the graphics. The current one looks like it could be an MS Office application.

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Graphics don't bother me

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I've been following this one for a while. Looks very interesting. The Paradox Diplomacy forum is pretty much dead, unfortunately.

	02-08-2005 03:50									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger I wish them luck, though Diplomacy is one of those games that are extremely difficult to write a decent AI for.

Indeed. That was my same thought. I don't really want to buy a Diplomacy game where I'll have to find people online just to get a good game (though I may do that once in a while).

And I think the graphics ain't half bad.

	02-08-2005 03:58									#7
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quote: Originally posted by nostromo I've been following this one for a while. Looks very interesting. The Paradox Diplomacy forum is pretty much dead, unfortunately.

I can't say I'm surprised really. There are undoubtedly a significant number of people around the world who play diplomacy but a PC game is really only going to supply them with an alternative interface. No matter how good the AI gets (and Paradox don't often deliver resilient AI) I don't see it appealing to a significant number of modern gamers. It just doesn't have the appeal of a WW2 or even Age of Exploration world conquest game which even their most anal games so far have always had.

	02-08-2005 05:24									#8
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I do not have much respect for Paradox anymore. They have been completely neglecting their games for what... a 3d engine for a board game? And then they go and make a beer and pretzel game on top of it.

	02-08-2005 07:08									#9
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd I do not have much respect for Paradox anymore. They have been completely neglecting their games for what... a 3d engine for a board game? And then they go and make a beer and pretzel game on top of it.

Diplomacy, a beer and pretzel game? Aren't games incredibly long? I admit, I never played it, but it promises to be a breath of fresh air.

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quote: Originally posted by nostromo Diplomacy, a beer and pretzel game? Aren't games incredibly long? I admit, I never played it, but it promises to be a breath of fresh air.

Well, I've never played it either, but it seems rather simplistic... perhaps not a beer and pretzel game, but still a far cry from the standard set by previous paradox games, I think.

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quote: Originally posted by Smiley I sure hope they improve the graphics. The current one looks like it could be an MS Office application.

MS Diplomacy

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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Well, I've never played it either, but it seems rather simplistic... perhaps not a beer and pretzel game, but still a far cry from the standard set by previous paradox games, I think.

Simplistic = complex, actually, like chess.

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geography is just awful

	02-08-2005 16:15									#14
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Diplomacy might be the first Paradox game since EU1 I won't buy... But MrT said some time back that this engine would be very good for remakes of their older games, especially CK. That sounds more like what I'd do if I had the option.

	02-08-2005 23:52									#15
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Actually, if the AI works, this may be the FIRST Paradox game I buy since EU II .

	03-08-2005 01:03									#16
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd Well, I've never played it either,

I'd just like to stop you there.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Actually, if the AI works, this may be the FIRST Paradox game I buy since EU II .

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Actually, if the AI works,

I'd just like to stop you there.

	03-08-2005 09:42									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Actually, if the AI works, this may be the FIRST Paradox game I buy since EU II .

That would be the first Paradox game I buy

	03-08-2005 09:45									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Simplistic = complex, actually, like chess.

It's not complex like chess.

The interesting part is trying to get other people to do your bidding. The actual strategic moves are quite limited by geography.

	03-08-2005 19:05									#21
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I wanted to try DiplomacyII, but it dissapeard from the budget lists before i could get it. So i'd be interested in giving this game a go if it ever happens.