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What are your criteria for including a civ in the game? (Time out:0 days after 01-08-2005, 20:06)
Major civs with great influence (ie. Rome, China, India, etc.)
Some slightly lesser civs that were cultural greats (Incas, France).
Some smaller, more controversial civs (Celts, Portuguese).
Some lesser known civs with some influence (Mali, Hittites).
Some really rather insignificant civs (Dahomey, Dutch).
Every major civilization that has ever existed!
A cross section of the world, representing all ethnic groups and cultures regardless of civilization status.
Some utterly stupid civs (North Americans, Jamaicans).
I don't care, as long as they leave in America!
I don't care, as long as they take out America!
I don't care, as long as they take out Mali!
I really don't care. I just want to play!
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binTravkin is offline binTravkin
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With me as the leader .


I was first, but I guess we can be both as a civ needs 2 leaders..

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I'd like to be the leader of the Vikings then.(Vikings, not that horrible and unhistoric "Scandinavian" civ bullshiit... )

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I was first, but I guess we can be both as a civ needs 2 leaders..


Well I am the best known Latvian on Apolyton . You can be my Unique Unit .

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I often are unsure of your national identity really. Now f.ex., I thought I remembered you not being Israelian, but OTOH, you always use their flag...

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Not always, I've only used the Israeli flag for the past 2 and a half or so years .

I live in Latvia, but I'm Jewish. Simple enough .

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Ah! I see. That explains it.

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You can be my Unique Unit .


Yeah, bark binTravkin, bark!

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OK, you're the Foreign advisor .

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Latvians.

You Balts sure are crazy, but we love you anyway!

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I should be the foreign advisor...

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Psst.. Sire, their army is sure greater than ours and their people are not admirers of our culture (don't ask). We should nuke them now till it's not too late!

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I don't care, as long as they leave in America!

although this would upset the PR people

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My criteria: Whatever Firaxis picks.

It's all just window dressing anyway; as long as the game plays fun it doesn't matter what the civs are.

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The real criterion: does it produce cheese ?

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Any civilization that can produce the V.O.C., defeat the tercios, produce De Stijl, Rembrandt, Vermeer, Maurice of Nassau, Mondrian and Spinoza can take an insult like that in its stride and still serve up a rijstafel with a coffee and speculaas to follow.


The Dutch:



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I had to keep the list short- after all didn't want to take up several pages worth of space with all the wonderful things the Dutch have produced.


I still have blissful memories of the great Vermeer exhibition at the Mauritshuis years ago.

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I had to keep the list short- after all didn't want to take up several pages worth of space with all the wonderful things the Dutch have produced.


I still have blissful memories of the great Vermeer exhibition at the Mauritshuis years ago.


Nice drawing... Is it yours?

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Nice drawing... Is it yours?


Alas, no.


It's from here:

http://www.virtualtourist.com/trave...shuis-BR-1.html


Vermeer:

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I'd like to be the leader of the Vikings then.(Vikings, not that horrible and unhistoric "Scandinavian" civ bullshiit... )


Nah, Scandinavian is better because it includes the post-viking ara as well. Also, the leader should be a famous Scandinavian monarch (like Gustavus Adolphus, St. Olaf, or Canute), not some obscure petty warlord like in Civ3.

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If there should be one late medieval scandinavian monarch it should be Gustav Vasa. He united the country and was the founder of modern Sweden. If it hadn´t been for Gustav Vasa Gustav II Adolf wouldn´t have had an empire to build.

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GO Latvia!!

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Nah, Scandinavian is better because it includes the post-viking ara as well. Also, the leader should be a famous Scandinavian monarch (like Gustavus Adolphus, St. Olaf, or Canute), not some obscure petty warlord like in Civ3.



Except 'Scandinavian' is bland- Viking at least commemorates the waves of migration, conquest and the great trade routes that stretched from Baku to L'Anse aux Meadows and doesn't sound like stripped pine modular furniture.

Adolphus was king of Sweden- a Sweden which fought against Denmark in the Kalmar War. Useful as a leader in a Thirty Years' War scenario, but not for the Vikings.

With the term Viking you also get to include the kingdoms in Ireland and England and Man, the early duchy of Normandy, the settlements in Iceland and Greenland too, and Oleg in Kiev. It's a general term but it suits the wider arena of the Viking experience.

Go Vikings.

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Alas, no.


It's from here:

http://www.virtualtourist.com/trave...shuis-BR-1.html


Vermeer:


Yep.

Vermeer is one of my "Three Masters" (Rembrandt and Velazquez are the others ). I did a series of paintings based in famous masterpieces (pastiches), for a satiric magazine in Brazil called "Bundas" (what means "A$$" ), where the persons in the picture were replaced by caricatures (politicians, etc). I was just preparing myself to start a Vermeer when the magazine closed its doors. It was shame.

Yes, Thanks to the Dutch. Painters, businessmen, Science, my own country (Mauricio de Nassau!!)... We have a lot to be thankful for.

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I did a series of paintings based in famous masterpieces (pastiches), for a satiric magazine in Brazil called "Bundas" (what means "A$$" ), where the persons in the picture were replaced by caricatures (politicians, etc). I was just preparing myself to start a Vermeer when the magazine closed its doors. It was shame.




I liked the card I saw which had Mrs Rothko cleaning the carpet- which was of course a large Rothko colour field painting....

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If it is tempting to speculate about what Mrs Whistler might be seeing, the invitation to guess what she might be thinking has proved irresistible. The early reading of the sitter's character as typically Protestant and puritanical has paved the way for recent lampoons in which her prudishness is only skin deep. "Come on, sonny boy, this picture would be a lot more interesting if I posed in the nude!" she quips in a postcard of the 1980s, while a recent internet image, entitled Whistler's Overbearing Mother: Derangement in Grey and Black, shows a grim Mrs Whistler holding a whip. Other images show her smoking a cigarette, blowing a party horn, or stripping down to her lacy undies in a card that suggests: "It's your birthday. Don't just sit there! Show 'em stuff!" Her very immobility, it seems, is provocative; we feel compelled to help Whistler's Mother loosen up, as well as stand up and stretch her legs occasionally.

Such eminent personalities as Donald Duck, Bullwinkle the Moose, Wile E Coyote, the Animaniacs, the Muppets and Barbie have struck the upright pose made famous by Mrs Whistler. Although these are characters created for children, the superimposition of Whistler's Mother is clearly meant to appeal to adults, providing the kind of inside joke that children's programming employs to keep parents watching.



http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/feat...,965457,00.html

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I liked the card I saw which had Mrs Rothko cleaning the carpet- which was of course a large Rothko colour field painting....



http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/feat...,965457,00.html



Funny link.

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Nah, Scandinavian is better because it includes the post-viking ara as well. Also, the leader should be a famous Scandinavian monarch (like Gustavus Adolphus, St. Olaf, or Canute), not some obscure petty warlord like in Civ3.


...says the guy who is from the US. You must understand that making a civ that is called "Scandinavian", a name of a region and totally wrong to use for a civ in every way, is not preferable. It's like making a civ called Western Europe really. Viking OTOH, may not represent more than one time period, but at least it represent a time period, contrary to this "Scandinavian" civ. Actually, if we should scrap the Viking name, I'd much rather have Sweden as a civ(me being a Norwegian that is saying a lot...), as Sweden was the power in the Nordic region that was most influential after the Viking age.

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Actually, if we should scrap the Viking name, I'd much rather have Sweden as a civ(me being a Norwegian that is saying a lot...), as Sweden was the power in the Nordic region that was most influential after the Viking age.


Tell that to the Danes.

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Oh, those two countries has been after each other for ages. It's time some independent and objective people tells them the truth(tm).

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Tell that to the Danes.


IKEA, Volvo, SAAB, Scania, Ericsson, The Nobel Prize, ABBA, a shitload of really good metal, etc, etc...

And the danes have what? Tuborg, Carlsberg and Kim Larsen?

You were saying...?

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