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This seems simple, but I struggle at it. I don't have insomnia, as once I fall asleep, I can stay asleep and sleep for 7 or 8 hours, no problem.

The trouble is actually falling asleep. What do you think about. What do you do? Yes I know about spanking the monkey. I don't need advice on that. It seems to help, but sometimes I'm not in the mood. I usually think about having sex with girls, that usually puts me to sleep. If I think about the day's events, or if I think about the current game of civ3 I'm in, I'll never fall asleep. But sometimes I can't not think of the day's events. This is where I run into trouble falling asleep.

I quit caffeine a couple years ago. This has helped for a while. But lately I'm having trouble falling asleep again.

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What is happening in your day that makes you obsess about it so much?

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masturbate a couple of times

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Two bottles of red wine will solve your sleeping problem - though, you may have some trouble waking in the morning

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What is happening in your day that makes you obsess about it so much?


nothing really. my life is not bad in any way. It's not good in any way either. But I kind of like it that way. I find I prefer a stable life over the ups and downs of certain activities.

I am worried that my anxiety is getting worse. But then I worry about my worrying . It's a never ending cycle.

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I think about a constant stream of random things.

The sheep likes Volkswagens, but Volkswagens are made in Mexico but pretend to be German, just like that guy at Wendy's. But Wendy's isn't a German retaurant really, it's more of an American one, old fashioned. Olde fashioned maybe. Perhaps Dave Thomas was a genius, didn't he only have a middle school education in mechatronics, building huge robots to assault the earth and eat strawberries?

It seems to help.

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I am worried that my anxiety is getting worse. But then I worry about my worrying . It's a never ending cycle.


That's it right there. Don't do that. If you don't sleep sometimes it's no big deal.

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I usually just fall asleep quickly.

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I usually just fall asleep quickly.


Yes, that would certainly solve the problem of not being able to fall asleep.

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Ok, I have a whopping 3 hours of sleep before me. Then I go to uni and do a very important presentation. You guessed it, I haven't slept all night!

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I heard that melatonin helps so you may want to give it a try.

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Or do counting games in your head. Count things starting with ice, or summer, even girl, as long as you keep your hands above the sheets.

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I think about a constant stream of random things.

The sheep likes Volkswagens, but Volkswagens are made in Mexico but pretend to be German, just like that guy at Wendy's. But Wendy's isn't a German retaurant really, it's more of an American one, old fashioned. Olde fashioned maybe. Perhaps Dave Thomas was a genius, didn't he only have a middle school education in mechatronics, building huge robots to assault the earth and eat strawberries?

It seems to help.


Dunno why, normally I would find stuff like that interesting, but reading that made me sleepy and bored to read it; it's like it was never going to stop.

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There was a method my therapist suggested for me when i was diagnosed insomniac It a form of self hypnosis.
I have to start by hae the room dark and cool, I then close my eyes and think of a safe gentle palce and try to place myself there. I then give my self a count of 20 thinking of this place and count backwords till i find my self asleep. I also find that it helps while counting telling your self that slowly you are getting more sleepy as the numbers decrease.

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Have the room dark and cool...

No lights, no computer monitor, no noises (a fan is permissible if it helps make things cooler.)

Sleep naked. Seriously. I started and it's the best thing I have done for my sleep

Just lay down, and sit. Have a good pillow and don't think about anything if you can.

If it's cooler outside than it is inside, open a window and let the fresh air in (make sure there's a screen on the window you don't want creatures jumping in while you're naked and asleep.)

Other than what I've already said, try to minimize the noise. I don't know what specific type of spot you live in in Las Vegas so opening your window may permit too much noise to get to you...repetitive nighttime things like crickets aren't bad noise, though.

If this isn't enough, then before you sleep:

* jack off (clears your mind of everything that you're worried about, can make a good end routine for the day, spends a little extra energy)
* read a joke book that you've already read at least once (clears your mind, puts you to sleep in a good spirit, you can remember the jokes better for retellage to chicks if you sleep right after you read them.)

As a habit: Go to bed earlier and wake up later (ie get more sleep), and sleep in the nighttime. Once you're used to a regular sleeping hours then you'll be able to sleep easierly.

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Have the room dark and cool...

No lights, no computer monitor, no noises (a fan is permissible if it helps make things cooler.)

Sleep naked. Seriously. I started and it's the best thing I have done for my sleep

Just lay down, and sit. Have a good pillow and don't think about anything if you can.

If it's cooler outside than it is inside, open a window and let the fresh air in (make sure there's a screen on the window you don't want creatures jumping in while you're naked and asleep.)

Other than what I've already said, try to minimize the noise. I don't know what specific type of spot you live in in Las Vegas so opening your window may permit too much noise to get to you...repetitive nighttime things like crickets aren't bad noise, though.

If this isn't enough, then before you sleep:

* jack off (clears your mind of everything that you're worried about, can make a good end routine for the day, spends a little extra energy)
* read a joke book that you've already read at least once (clears your mind, puts you to sleep in a good spirit, you can remember the jokes better for retellage to chicks if you sleep right after you read them.)

As a habit: Go to bed earlier and wake up later (ie get more sleep), and sleep in the nighttime. Once you're used to a regular sleeping hours then you'll be able to sleep easierly.


cooler outside than inside.

maybe a good laugh will help me sleep.

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I think my main problem is I don't need an alarm clock anymore, since I purposely work a later shift (swing shift). It's so nice not being woken up by an alarm clock. but consequently I sleep later and later. And I'm up later an later in the morning. I blame computer games for this as well. I'm usually up to 6:00 AM in the morning. So when I try to go to sleep any time before 6:00 AM it's damn near impossible.

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one more question. How long after you lay down before you actually fall asleep?

I understand this can only be an estimate. I estimate me between 30 minutes and 1 hour on average.

As for sleeping naked. Currently I only sleep in my boxers. My penis always seems to get in the way when I sleep naked. If it wasn't so damned big...

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I have a special hydraulic lift to hold my penis in place when I sleep at night.

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**** it. If that doesn't work, do 20 pushups.

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jerkin' off does work. But it does get my heartrate up. So it takes about 20 minutes for me to cool down. it's not an instant thing.

Where as if I could just relax my body some other way I could fall asleep in the same or less time.

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It takes me about a minute or two to fall asleep. Then again I can sleep anywhere, on buses, planes, ships, etc.

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Unless I am dog tired, it takes a minimum of one hour to fall asleep. I need silence and darkness (no stimulation), but once asleep I stay asleep. And I only need six hours rest to feel good the next day.

I just work with it; I plan my time so that quiet contemplation is done before I sleep. There is always something to think about.

Counting is useless for people like us, Dis, unless we are talking four digit numbers. When desperate for sleep, I prefer to imagine a dark space. I then think of an even darker place in the center and let it grow to fill my mind. Then an even darker center, growing, repeat as necessary.

The swing shift you mentioned is very, very bad. For quick and regular sleeping you need a standard time every day.

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It takes me about a minute or two to fall asleep. Then again I can sleep anywhere, on buses, planes, ships, etc.


I average about 5 minutes to knock out after I've done one of the things in my above post, at most. But only in my own bed. Hotel beds keep me up for at least another couple minutes (usually hotels I go to have pretty well kept beds though) and beds not my own or chairs can drag it on for an hour. If I'm going to be sitting overnight, I prefer just staying up all night.

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and I really can't sleep sitting upright (which is good when I drive). I can barely do it when sitting reclined (as in an airline seat). Only when I flew from Kuwait city to Newark, NJ I was kind of forced to learn how to sleep in this position.

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IC an fall asleep on chairs fairly easily

sometimes easier then in beds

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sometimes when I can't get to sleep on my bed, I wander out to the couch..
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