04-08-2005 17:14									#1
	Hey you, non imperial residents ! Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Dear non-United States residents friends,

Are you going to wait for civIV being released in your remote province ? Or are you going to buy it on Amazon on the first of November, even if it's not in your mother tongue ?

As far as I am concerned, me Frenchie, I can't wait...

	04-08-2005 17:37									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

First to vote...
Living in Brazil, I can't wait. Anyway, the game is always in english here, only the manual is in Portuguese.
So, my vote is "I won't wait".
Just because I want to play Civ IV as soon as possible.
Firaxis, would you please make a downloadable version?

	04-08-2005 17:40									#3
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quote: even if it's not in your mother tongue ?

The last thing I want is a localised version. Not that there are many of them released. :relieved:

	04-08-2005 17:42									#4
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I still refuse to play translated games. The English version is the only way to go and well it's not like anyone would bother translating here. I am going to pick the game up as soon as I can, though. And stop thinking that it's November for release date.

	04-08-2005 17:42									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I won't wait, I will make a retailer ship it to me

	04-08-2005 18:32									#6
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I wait still it is available in shops in germany,
but as the english version will be the first to ship (at least this was the case with Civ 3, where you could buy the english version months before a german version version was available [which is the reason why Coldfever tried to make a mod which translates all the english text into german [and promptly got a cease and desist order from infogrames, as soon as he published the mod on his homepage ])
I will buy the english version instead of a localised one (well, after all I prefer the english versions, so I would buy it even if the localised version came at the same time into the shops as the english original )

	04-08-2005 19:16									#7
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They WILL ship it to me. I don't care how much it costs me, it will be shipped.

	04-08-2005 19:23									#8
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i will wait for it is in the shops...i after seeing some debacles of computer games and cardgames translated in dutch...i hope they wont try to make a localized version...i even have windows in english

	04-08-2005 19:31									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Krill They WILL ship it to me. I don't care how much it costs me, it will be shipped.

And I'll pay extra bucks if it's fast.

	04-08-2005 19:51									#10
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

This is a pointless poll(or at least for my part of the world). No games other than children's games are localized(and most of those games are made in Norway anyway, so they don't need that). We get the games pretty fast after you, some games even before you.

	04-08-2005 20:07									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

As Proteus, I'll wait until CIV will be available in shops in Italy, but as the english version usually is the first to ship (at least this was the case with others game), I'll probably try to buy it in english.

It's not a matter of playing the game early, is more a way to avoid bad localization (my italian Civ II messed up the civilopedia link in the translation process), late patch availability, and some misunderstanding about game terms posting at the forums.

In the meantime between the game being available in USA and here in Italy, I'll let my american friends at Poly playing lovely Guinea Pig for me (catching main bugs, reviewing the game, etc.)

	04-08-2005 20:08									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I won't bend over backwards to get it as soon as possible.

If the English version sells in our stores as soon as it's released, like it was with Civ3, I will buy it.

Otherwise I can wait.

	04-08-2005 20:44									#13
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quote: originally posted by: M. le Comte non imperial residents

good of you to slip in a bit of offtopic into your post title. Why don't you stick that crap in the OT where it belongs?

	04-08-2005 22:14									#14
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Like Aro, I'm in Brazil... I'll wait for the game to arrive in stores here, which will happen just a few days after the north-american release. The last civ game that was translated into Portuguese was Civ2. Civ3 was in English and just the manual was translated.

	04-08-2005 22:36									#15
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Most obviously the game will be in the dutch shops around the same time as it's in the american shops. Of course no one in holland wants a dutch version of the game

	04-08-2005 23:09									#16
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

I don't plan to buy it.

	04-08-2005 23:40									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

You'll "aquire" it then?

	05-08-2005 05:03									#18
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

He's probably making a deal with Yin: he will eat half the cardbox and Yin will eat the other half, and Markos will send them a copy for each one.

	05-08-2005 05:30									#19
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I wouldn't be opposed to that. Cardboard is good fiber.

	05-08-2005 07:14									#20
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I'll get it by any means possible. So, i wont wait!

	05-08-2005 10:42									#21
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It is funny how one can check the first option if it is written in English:
"I will wait, I don't read English, or I don't want to"

	05-08-2005 10:57									#22
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quote: Originally posted by MxM It is funny how one can check the first option if it is written in English: "I will wait, I don't read English, or I don't want to"

Actually, that was the joke...

I had never realized that France was the only country were almost every PC game in shops is translated. No imperial version available here.

Anyway, French people don't speak foreign languages. That's perhaps the reason...

	05-08-2005 12:14									#23
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Noooo!!! Really?!!?

	05-08-2005 14:46									#24
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by M. le Comte I had never realized that France was the only country were almost every PC game in shops is translated. No imperial version available here.

No, also in Italy games are usually translated (or at least the manual is translated).
It's a long tradition we inherited by translation of movies: italian actors in dubbing teams usually do a good job - as long they are working on main movie / main actors. Budget movies sometimes got budget translation.

quote: Originally posted by M. le Comte Anyway, French people don't speak foreign languages. That's perhaps the reason...

In Italy ther is a mixed situation. Younger people usually have at least some knowledge of english, while french, german and a bunch of others language got less diffusion.

That said, AFAIK is not that in England and USA they really know a lot of foreign languages (well, spanish is quite common because of some large community of latin-american people, IIRC).

Probably our lazy friend try to dominate the world by economics, Hollywood and military just to force everyone into using english (just kidding - please don't flame the pianist )

	05-08-2005 15:17									#25
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Same goes for germany.
Most of the games (and nearly all of the movies) are translated.

English Versions for most of the games are usually hard to find.
The thing which Infogrames did with Civ 3, i.e. first publishing the Original Version and then, a lot of months later, the german translation, was rather unusual for a games publisher in germany

	05-08-2005 15:33									#26
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It wasn't the distributor but probably the shop that imported American/English versions.

	05-08-2005 15:40									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai This is a pointless poll

but you voted didnt you...


I will wait

just remeber these words

"Warning Spoilers"

	05-08-2005 15:51									#28
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quote: Originally posted by alva It wasn't the distributor but probably the shop that imported American/English versions.

Not in the case of Civ 3.
Almost every shop hat the english version available in large quantities, even the large department stores, who normally donīt import english versions of games.
So I think it was rather a step taken by the distributor than something the individual shops did.

Normally, if you want to find the english version of a game, it is useless to look in large department stores, as you wonīt find them there (even if no german version is available yet)

	05-08-2005 15:55									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Proteus_MST Not in the case of Civ 3. Almost every shop hat the english version available in large quantities...

hatten sie ?

	05-08-2005 16:39									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Platypus Rex but you voted didnt you...

Yes, I voted banana. The nearest you can get abstain.