04-08-2005 23:24									#1
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I think that young people entering politics do believe in certain ideas in an honest way. They might be naive, innocent and idealistic, but they are sincere.

Then you look at the other end of the spectrum... The top politicians... Corrupt, cynic, hungry for power, doing everything they can to conserve their positions...

True or false, I don't know... But suppose that's how it is... Do you think a person with honest, genuine intentions can reach the top untainted? Or do you have to play the ugly game, deceiving voters and giving in to lobbyists, backstabbing and burying your friends to go all the way?

In short, is there a single top politician in the world that has stayed true to his/her ideals? That has been and remained an honest person? Is it even possible, or is the trade such that only the manipulative power players make it?

Carolus

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	05-08-2005 00:11									#2
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"Don't try to get yourself elected. Cause if you do you had better turn your head." -- from "Long Long Time" by Crosby, Stills, & Nash

	05-08-2005 00:13									#3
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power corrupts. absolut power corrupts completely.

	05-08-2005 00:14									#4
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they're nothing fouler thanpoliticians with the exception of worker's unions leadership.

	05-08-2005 00:16									#5
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but do you know who have decency? the rightists. yes I say it. I SAY IT AGAIN. Right wing. Decency. Not corrupted unprincipled arseholes. Decency.

	05-08-2005 00:17									#6
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you may not agree with their political and financial agenda. sure. you may think that they're wrong, and they most probably are in their political decisions and financial ones in macroeconomic level. but decency.

	05-08-2005 00:22									#7
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no

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	05-08-2005 00:32									#9
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i should add that the socialists arent so bad either. but communists? i'm your lethal enemy you deranged ****s! we'll decapitate velouchiotis one more time! yes. that's it.

	05-08-2005 00:38									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Bereta_Eder power corrupts. absolut power corrupts completely.

I think the quote goes:

"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely..."

Carolus

	05-08-2005 00:39									#11
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The quote goes Η εξουσία διαφθείρει. Η απόλυτη εξουσία διαφθείρει απόλυτα.

	05-08-2005 00:40									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Bereta_Eder but do you know who have decency? the rightists. yes I say it. I SAY IT AGAIN. Right wing. Decency. Not corrupted unprincipled arseholes. Decency.

What?! Yeah, right... Have you completely missed recent events in the US? You know, the last 4 or 5 years?

Carolus

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so yes you're right. i didnt know if absolutely would convey the right message in english

	05-08-2005 00:43									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex What?! Yeah, right... Have you completely missed recent events in the US? You know, the last 4 or 5 years? Carolus

who cares sbout that US. im talking about Greece.

	05-08-2005 00:44									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Bereta_Eder i should add that the socialists arent so bad either.

What?! Yeah, right... Have you completely missed not so recent events in Eastern Europe? Like, since the end of WWII?

Carolus

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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex What?! Yeah, right... Have you completely missed not so recent events in Eastern Europe? Like, since the end of WWII? Carolus

who cares about eastern europe this is... etc

but those were self proclaimed communists anyway not socialists. anyway nothing fouler than communists leaders of wokrers unions. and that's right. FREEDOM IN YOUR FACES AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT FASCISTS DERANGED COMMIES

And that's the truth.

	05-08-2005 00:48									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Bereta_Eder who cares sbout that US. im talking about Greece.

Papandreou was clean? What about that wife of his; wasn't there something shady going on?

Carolus

	05-08-2005 00:48									#18
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foul deranged people those commies. i'd compare them with alice in wonderland if they didnt stink so bad.

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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex Papandreou was clean? What about that wife of his; wasn't there something shady going on? Carolus

he's soooo last century

	05-08-2005 01:09									#20
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Power corrups, but absolute power is nice.

	05-08-2005 07:16									#21
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Only if you are not on the receiving end, though