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Barinthus is offline Barinthus
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For years I have been arguing that chivalry is sexism in disguise while nearly everybody insist it's merely good manners. I often would say that if women want equality, so be it - they cannot have their cake and eat others'.

Finally I see in the print that someone out there agrees with me and it's a woman!

See bold in the below article.

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Does it pay to be a flirt?
Report says women in the workplace who use sexual behavior may not get that next promotion or raise.

August 5, 2005: 10:59 AM EDT

NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Flirting at the office is not only taboo, but it could even take a toll on your financial future.


Women who cross their legs provocatively, wear short skirts or massage a man's shoulders at work get fewer pay raises and promotions, according to Friday's USA Today.

The newspaper, citing a Tulane University study, said 49 percent of MBA graduates polled admitted that they have tried to advance in their careers by sometimes engaging in certain sexual behaviors, including sending flirty e-mails and wearing revealing clothing.

The respondents who said they never engaged in such activity earned an average of three promotions, versus two for the group that had employed sexuality. Those who said they never used sexuality were, on average, in the $75,000-$100,000 income range; the other group fell, on average, into the next range, $50,000 to $75,000.

Tulane professor Arthur Brief said the study suggests that women should be careful about letting men open doors or lift boxes that aren't particularly heavy, because chivalry is "benevolent sexism."

"We argue that there are negative consequences for women who use sexuality in the workplace," Brief told the newspaper.

The 164 women in the study ranged in age from their mid-20s to 60.

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The survey is nonsense.

The flirtacious women are probably the dumber ones...smarter women get more raises and promotions than dumber ones.

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And the ones more likely to flirt are probably in their 20's vs those in their 40s or 50s. Who would you think are getting more promotions.

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If she's hot, I would promot the flirt every time.


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Actually, after careful consideration, I would promote the one with the biggest breasts.

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Are you sure that Arthur Brief is a woman?

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Are you sure that Arthur Brief is a woman?


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"A manager is trying to decide whom of three women should recieve a promotion, so to test them, he slips $100 extra in each of their envelopes and sees what they do with it.

The first woman says '$100 extra, this must be a mistake, I'll go report this.'

The second woman says '$100 extra, I'm going shopping!'

The third woman says 'I can invest this extra $100 in more company stock.'

Who gets the promotion?

The one with the biggest breasts."

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big breasts

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"A manager is trying to decide whom of three women should recieve a promotion, so to test them, he slips $100 extra in each of their envelopes and sees what they do with it.

The first woman says '$100 extra, this must be a mistake, I'll go report this.'

The second woman says '$100 extra, I'm going shopping!'

The third woman says 'I can invest this extra $100 in more company stock.'

Who gets the promotion?

The one with the biggest breasts."


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Tired of ads?

we already have a thread on this

completely different title though.

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It's called humour.

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That's bullshit. I open doors and pay for meals because it gets me sex.

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For years I have been arguing that chivalry is sexism in disguise while nearly everybody insist it's merely good manners. I often would say that if women want equality, so be it - they cannot have their cake and eat others'.


I say, if you bleed like a woman, you deserve being treated nicely - at least sometimes

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I could see sex being a factor in hiring, but promotions?

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I got it

They are doing it backwards. Think about it. If you are a male CEO and some women subordinates are doing, um, nice things to you as a way of getting a better chance at promotions, will you promote them? Of course not. That way you make them do more, um, nice things

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For years I have been arguing that chivalry is sexism in disguise




I agree wholeheartedly and have been arguing similar .

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As far as I can see, that makes 2 Guys who agree with Barinthus.

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don't you mean 2 gays.

I open doors for women all the time. I also do it for men.

What does that mean? I'm bisexual.

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For years I have been arguing that chivalry is sexism in disguise while nearly everybody insist it's merely good manners. I often would say that if women want equality, so be it - they cannot have their cake and eat others'.

Finally I see in the print that someone out there agrees with me and it's a woman!

This is the first time you here a woman say this? Which rock have you been living under since the sixties, if I may ask?

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Roll your eyes all you want; if this is the first time you've seen this said by a woman in print you've either lived beneath a rock for decades, or live in some Afghanistan-style hellhole.

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I've never heard a woman say it.

Not even my feminist mother.

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Glad you lead a such civilized life, LC

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That's bullshit. I open doors and pay for meals because it gets me sex.


Damn right.

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Roll your eyes all you want; if this is the first time you've seen this said by a woman in print you've either lived beneath a rock for decades, or live in some Afghanistan-style hellhole.


This still isn't the first time he has seen this said by a woman in print

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That's bullshit. I open doors and pay for meals because it gets me sex.


I want proof of this

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The article is right, Flirtation doesn't get you promoted. Worshipful, transcendental felatio gets you promoted.

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