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mrmitchell
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In the last "recommend me an mp3 player thread" I got recommended an iAudio U2 1GB player.
And it looks pretty good, but the amazon.com description says it has an integrated battery.
How long will the battery last? How can I replace it?
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mrmitchell
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I hate to bump my own thread, but I think someone else has one of these. It's a Cowon iAudio U2 1GB mp3 player. Was it Ramo?
And if the battery doesn't last very long, how can I extend its life?
It has a fast charge mode (two hours to charge) and a slow charge mode (6-7 hours). What's the difference between these two? Why would you have two charging speeds?
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Zopperoni
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Originally posted by mrmitchell
It has a fast charge mode (two hours to charge) and a slow charge mode (6-7 hours). What's the difference between these two? Why would you have two charging speeds? |
I think the "fast charge" mode goes very quickly to ~80%, but you'll need to wait the full 6-7 hours ("slow charge") to get to 100%.
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mrmitchell
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I think with all iPods you can send them in to Apple and get a new refurbished one? Not sure if this extends to the Shuffle.
Note, I mean a totally new one. They'll trash the old one. Won't transfer your music to it.
Will Cowon do this for the iAudio U2? I'd like an mp3 player that lasts me longer than a year or so...
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Riesstiu IV
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quote:
Originally posted by mrmitchell
I think with all iPods you can send them in to Apple and get a new refurbished one? Not sure if this extends to the Shuffle.
Note, I mean a totally new one. They'll trash the old one. Won't transfer your music to it.
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Your kidding me?! This has to be one of the most wasteful and costly business practices done by apple. Why couldn't they just make it so it uses AAA batteries? Then you don't have to throw away a 100 to 400 dollar device.
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Riesstiu IV
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It just dawned on me now! The hell I'm paying that much money just so apple can replace the battery or device, and take 50 billion weeks sending it back using UPS ground shipping. Well, at least it was free. Maybe when the batteries die I could use it as a paperweight.
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nostromo
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Montréal, Québec
Mar 2002
time: 00:37
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No need to get hysteric, people. If your iPod's battery stops working properly before your warranty expires, Apple will replace it for free. If you're worried, you can even buy extra warranty for about 60$ usd.
If your iPod's battery stops working properly after your warranty expires, Apple will replace it for a fee. Its 59$ usd, slightly more expensive than a brand new battery. Some third parties sell batteries, so you can change it yourself, if you want to, although its trickier on some models, like the iPod Mini. If you're not comfortable doing it yourself, they can do it for you. For more info, read the following:
http://www.ipodbatteryfaq.com/
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nostromo
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Montréal, Québec
Mar 2002
time: 00:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Winston
The point is, it's borderline fraud to market a player for which you cannot replace the battery unless you pay $200, and the average time from the purchase to the death of the battery is 12-18 months. It's been in the news here quite a bit; a lot of people feel severely cheated by Apple - I'd say all of them will, once the gruesome realities start dawning on them... |
From iPod Battery FAQ:
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Question: I heard that the iPod's battery only lasts 18 months, and then you have to buy a new iPod! Is that true?
Answer: NO! The vast, vast majority of even the earliest iPods, now over two years old, continue to function just fine. Some iPods, however, have had issues with batteries. Lithium ion batteries are only good for 300 to 500 charge/discharge cycles (more). For this reason, certain customers' usage patterns may cause the batteries to degrade, or fail, sooner than others.
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The moral of the story is don't believe everything you hear in the news. And read the goddamn manual! 
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Winston
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Danmark
Mar 1999
time: 06:37
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No, the 'moral' of the story is, if you're happy with your iPod, use it for an extended period of time every day, and charge the battery, say, 3 times a week, you're likely to experience the manufacturer's great service concept around 18 months after you bought it.
It may be 'only' $59 in the U.S. under certain conditions, but here it's DKK 1,095.-, which is roughly $200. Plus weeks, maybe months, of not having your iPod. Repeat every 18 months - or as long as it takes you to realise this isn't a very good deal.
It should be stated clearly in Apple's marketing of the iPod that these are the conditions you're facing, but it isn't.
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nostromo
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Montréal, Québec
Mar 2002
time: 00:37
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You haven't read my post, have you? It clearly states that the 18 months rumour is just that, an unsubstantiated rumour. AFAIK, the majority of iPod batteries work just fine. Some people got unlucky, or they didn't read their manuals and hence didn't take care of their batteries properly, and it was blown all out of proportions...
Of course, like you pointed out, it depends on how you use it. If you're a really heavy user, and have to charge it 3 to 4 times a week, the battery will obviously die out sooner. And that's listening to a lot of music (almost non-stop). But that's not a problem with the Apple's batteries in themselves: its a problem with all MP3 players. Hell, Apple and Creative probably buy their batteries at the same place. OTOH, most people aren't heavy users, so AFAIK their batteries will probably last between 2 and 3 years.
Of course, the fact that the batteries are not user-replaceable is a slight pain in the ass, but only a slight one. Its not a big deal, not here at least (I feel your pain). For 59$ usd Apple will replace it for you. A battery for an iPod Mini, for example, costs 40$ usd in itself.
Last edited by nostromo on 08-08-2005 at 10:24
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Riesstiu IV
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Well there might be a solution for anybody who owns an Ipod shuffle. Apple sells a backup battery pack for around $30. It uses two AAA batteries as backup and to extend the life of the playtime. Presumably if the Lithium-ion battery in the Ipod shuffle completely crapped out, this could be used as an alternative to sending it in for $59.
It makes it less portable but at least your not throwing out a perfectly good device after 2 years of use.
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mrmitchell
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The specs page says it has a "lithium-polymer" battery.
What's the diff in this and a li-ion battery?
EDIT: Nevermind, I did two minutes of reading and answered my own question: it's less flammable and lighter. Wikipedia says some of the batteries last as long as regular li-ions and some don't.
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Zopperoni
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That relates to a different form of battery.
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06-08-2005 20:52
After all, the iPod Mini's battery is superior to the Zen Micro's. 
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