22-08-2005 21:11									#121
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You know, I was just thinking about slipstream and max speed. It would be really cool to be able to slipstream when you are at max, get an extra space of movement and a 1 turn temp speed boost, sort of like RL.

I can launch more than one spambomb per turn, right?

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	22-08-2005 21:17									#122
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The rules state you can launch up to 3 on any turn.

I like the concept of getting a free space over the max on a slip. (just for that turn and your end speed would still be considered your max so you wouldn't have to brake to start your next turn)

What do others think?

	22-08-2005 21:36									#123
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BTW I agree but you really need to be able to move two spaces to pass someone at your same speed. But I can also see it being used as an exploit.

	22-08-2005 21:39									#124
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I agree with spaced's idea...

	22-08-2005 21:43									#125
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spambombsorders sent

	22-08-2005 22:13									#126
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I like the slipstream idea too. It being exploited would also be fun

	22-08-2005 22:21									#127
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and there I was earlier, sitting and wishing I could Slip this turn....

For! and the exploit could be as interesting as the spam(bombs)

	22-08-2005 22:31									#128
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Wow, if everyone who posted a message also sent orders, then I am last......Sent!.

(though I am not sure if Kassiopeia or Drogue sent in orders ).

* Sparrowhawk

Edit: It was the idiot side of my brain that posted the above message, Drogue has sent orders, and Jonny has yet to post since the update Please feel free to ignore my ramblings

Last edited by Sparrowhawk on 22-08-2005 at 23:02

	22-08-2005 22:42									#129
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It ain't sent if it doesn't say "sent".

	22-08-2005 23:07									#130
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I have sent.

	22-08-2005 23:11									#131
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quote: Originally posted by rah I like the concept of getting a free space over the max on a slip. (just for that turn and your end speed would still be considered your max so you wouldn't have to brake to start your next turn) What do others think?

Well, since that will only give the person in behind one extra space... that will just enable Kassi to run into me yet again.

edit: whoops, meant to put that inside my last post...

	22-08-2005 23:19									#132
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only waiting on Jonny.

	22-08-2005 23:22									#133
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No, two spaces could be an exploit, if two persons were so inclined to cooperate.

WTF waiting on Jonny?

	22-08-2005 23:26									#134
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I am in favour of the proposed rules change.

	22-08-2005 23:40									#135
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Cross post. I now have everyone's I'll work on the update when I get a few free minutes at work.

And it seems that people want a slip exception. I'll work up a rule, and determine when it will take effect. Either coming out of sand trap alley or at the end of this lap.

Deciding on one or two spaces.

	23-08-2005 00:33									#136
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code:

TURN number 9	  RACE IS 3 LAPS

                   1    1    2    2    3    3    4    4    5    5    6    6    7
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         .**************************************.END SAND TRAP...=====.ALLEY....
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 MAX=Max speed
 SB=SAND BOMBS
Cust=Sway(S) or Turbo(T) or Performance (P)

CAR   DRIVER           DIRECTION  SPEED  WC  MAX  SB  CUST  ORDERS
***   *************       ***      ***   **   **  **  ****  **********
 1.   Teh Cowboy           N       13     6   13  03  SWAY  (5M)R(7M)
 2.   Butch Cash gj        N       11    13   13  05  PERF  LMR(M10)
 3.   Kassiopeia          NW        9     6   10  03  TURB  L(3M)(L+1)(5M) 
 4.   Jeff Hawksworthy     N       11     6   13  04  SWAY  (M5)L(M2)R(M4)
 5.   John E. Wheeler     NW       10     5   10  02  TURB  (m1)RL(L+1)(m6)SB67,46
 6.   Snoop Dawg           N       12     4   12  02  TURB  A(M4)R(M7) 
 7.   Taht! Druggie        N       12     6   12  02  SWAY  A(3M)R(6M)RL
 

Spaced question about multiple bombs didn't scare anybody into too strange of orders.

Jeff cruises into sand trap alley and hits 2 out of 3, it's clear under him.
Butch tries next and also hits 2 out of 3 but pulls even due to the clear space
prior . The space under him is sandy.
Both reduced to 11
Druggie hoping for better luck along with Cowboy and Snoop, but they will
probably use a different path.
Jonny Does a little payback on Kass, and Kass obliges him by hitting it.
I suggest you guys save yours for the leaders for now.
They're just hoping they'll see a better way though HEAVILY sand trapped alley.


*************NEW RULE CHANGE************
EFFECTIVE as soon as you pass the ====== at the END of sand trap alley.
The extra speed generated from an S command (+1) can be used even if it exceeds
your max speed. If it does exceed your max, your end speed will show as your
normal max again and you not have to brake to start the next turn. If it
doesn't exceed your max, it will be added to your end speed (just like it does now)


Now accepting orders for turn 10.

	23-08-2005 01:14									#137
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sent!

	23-08-2005 02:16									#138
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Sendified!

	23-08-2005 03:27									#139
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Sent!!

* Sparrowhawk

	23-08-2005 06:47									#140
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Sent.

	23-08-2005 15:31									#141
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Sent

	23-08-2005 18:11									#142
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Waiting on Jonny and Kass

	23-08-2005 20:28									#143
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Kassi's on Eventis, I'll tell him to come over. Jonny no idea about.

	23-08-2005 20:29									#144
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Sent.

	23-08-2005 20:42									#145
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Sent 2½ hours ago, in fact.

	23-08-2005 20:52									#146
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W00t

	23-08-2005 21:04									#147
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code:

TURN number 10	  RACE IS 3 LAPS

                   1    1    2    2    3    3    4    4    5    5    6    6    7
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        10....+....+....+....+....+....+....*****+....+....+....+..****...+....+
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         .**************************************.END SAND TRAP...=====.ALLEY....
         .*************************************..................***2*J.........
        15.************.+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+**4S*I...+....+
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         .....*******............................................SS6S*E.........
        20....+******...+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+S*S**D...+....+
         ......******............................................CSS**C.........
         ......******............................................SCS**B.........
         .......*****............................................SSS**A.........
         .......****.............................START.SAND.TRAP.=====.ALLEY....
        25....+..***....+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+.***+....+....+
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        70....+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+....+
           
 MAX=Max speed
 SB=SAND BOMBS
Cust=Sway(S) or Turbo(T) or Performance (P)

C=known clear square in sand trap alley. 

CAR   DRIVER           DIRECTION  SPEED  WC  MAX  SB  CUST  ORDERS
***   *************       ***      ***   **   **  **  ****  **********
 1.   Teh Cowboy           N        8     6   13  03  SWAY  RLLMR(8M)
 2.   Butch Cash gj        N        7    13   13  05  PERF  ARML(M9)
 3.   Kassiopeia           N       10     6   10  03  TURB  A(4M)R(5M) 
 4.   Jeff Hawksworthy    NE        6     6   13  04  SWAY  A(M7)R(M4)
 5.   John E. Wheeler      N       10     5   10  02  TURB  (m1)R(m8)
 6.   Snoop Dawg           N        8     4   12  02  TURB  RL(m10) 
 7.   Taht! Druggie       NE        8     6   12  02  SWAY  (2M)LMRR(2M)L(3M)
 

Jeff tries to shake it up and hit's 6 bags, reduced to speed 6. Bad choices
Sand under his car.
Butch tries to shake it up also and hit's 5 bags, reduced to speed 7.
Bad choice but not as bad as jeff as he takes the lead. It is clear under his car.
Druggie does a little better and hits only 4. It is clear under his car.
Note he never got to the L order so he is still heading NE
Cowboy hit's five and there is sand under his car.
Snoop tries to barrel through and hits only 4. It is clear under his car.

John and Kass approach and hopefully have learned something. (besides sand trap
alley is a pain in the ass.) If they do, they shouldn't fall farther behind and may
be able to get back into it. There is a way through.

And I am thrilled to see that none tried to put an A at the end of their turn.



*************NEW RULE CHANGE************
EFFECTIVE as soon as you pass the ====== at the END of sand trap alley.
The extra speed generated from an S command (+1) can be used even if it exceeds
your max speed. If it does exceed your max, your end speed will show as your
normal max again and you not have to brake to start the next turn. If it
doesn't exceed your max, it will be added to your end speed (just like it does now)


Now accepting orders for turn 11.

Last edited by rah on 23-08-2005 at 21:25

	23-08-2005 21:06									#148
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Cut me some slack.
30 minutes after the last order is submitted isn't bad.
Especially with almost all in the alley.
I can't do everyone else's move early due to possible spam bombs.
I think we're moving along quite well
(despite almost ready to be executed in the mafia game )

	23-08-2005 21:17									#149
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No, you're doing great the W00t was just to signify my delight at another turn before I leave work

And sent

	23-08-2005 21:19									#150
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The turnaround is way below 24 hrs, it's very impressive. My speed should be 10, btw.