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Ritalin or other such drugs use (will use Ritalin isntead of naming them all) (Time out:0 days after 09-08-2005, 14:41)
I use Ritalin now
I used Ritalin in the past
I self-medicate now (using drugs I was not prescribed to alleviate symptoms ritalin is normally proscribed for)
I self-medicated in the past
I think that I should have used Ritalin
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Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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May 1999
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This is about apolytoners use of ritalin or other like drugs (drugs that are suppose to fulfill a similiar job).

JM

Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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hopefully that isn't too compleciated

JM

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I use alcohol to calm down.

Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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btw, I used ritalin in the past

was put on it arround first grade (I was also kicked out of first grade)

I got off it in 6th or 8th, because I wanted to (I had wanted to for a long time, my mom finally allowed me to)

I don't like taking pills..

JM

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Well, a short description/intended use would be nice. As in, i have no idea what ritalin is.

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if you self-medicate with alcohol then vote with it..

there were years where I took nothing (I didn't start drinking caffeine till I was in college, and alcohol until gradschool) so I don't think that I self-medicate with any drug

JM

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and my family would never have been abile to afford it. We had no health insurance, and I never went to the doctor as a kid. But I was never hyper.

I just couldn't focus too much on school work as a kid. But I think maybe because I was in the average classes. A strange thing happened in jr. high. I took a test, and then they put me in the advanced classes, then I started getting good grades. But I did seem more able to focus. Especially in high school (when I got out of a bad family and a bad jr. high school environment).

but most of that was just competition with my older brother. I wanted to be just like him. I still do in a way. pathetic. I should be my own person. Whatever that is.

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If you've had ritalin, caffeine would pale a bit in comparison

I've had a stint with prozac in recent history though.

Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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from http://www.zoot2.com/justthefacts/drugs/ritalin.asp

Ritalin®

Q: What is Ritalin®?

A: Ritalin® is the name that a medication called methylphenidate is sold under.

Q: What is Ritalin® used for?

A: Doctors use Ritalin® to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Ritalin® seems to help an ADHD–affected person pay attention to tasks and reduce impulsive and hyperactive behaviour. It has become a popular way to control difficult behaviours in children, especially at school.

Q: What is the problem with Ritalin®?

A: Like a lot of legal drugs, the problem comes when people abuse it by taking more than the doctor prescribed in order to get “high.” When abused, it stimulates the mind and body in much the same way as amphetamines and cocaine.

I am sure there are better sites

JM

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I thought ritalin had the opposite effect on children than adults. What's up with that?

Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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I beleive it is an opposite effect on people with ADHD then people without it

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other prescribed drugs

"Other prescribed stimulants include Dexedrine and Adderall (amphetamine), Desoxyn and Gradumet (methamphetamine), and Cylert (pemoline)."
http://christian-parenting.learninginfo.org/chap03.htm
JM

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honestly I think it is ****ed up that it is prescribed so much

and it makes lots of people think that it isnt' that bad, when really it is similiar to cocaine

personally, while I can beleive that it should be prescribed in a few cases, I Think it should be prescribed in a lot less

JM

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Googled it... Side-effects, deaths...

Jon Miller is offline Jon Miller
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http://www.add-adhd-help-center.com...information.htm

JM

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bump because I know of at least 3 people who mentioned their ritalin use

JM

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So are you really saying that Ritaline is a good thing for kids? I can't imagine anything like this happening in Europe

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no

I don't think it is good in general

I can imagine that it is good in some specific cases, but that is just because I am not a doctor, and haven't read the papers

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and I beleive one of the links said it did happen in areas of europe

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So are you really saying that Ritaline is a good thing for kids? I can't imagine anything like this happening in Europe


They don't use Ritalin, or similar drugs, in Europe? I doubt that. Maybe they use them less than they do here, but I'm sure they use them nonetheless.

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I've been reading about it, since I suspect I may have ADD without hyperactivity. Here's what an expert on ADD, Ed Hallowell, says about medication:

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When used properly, the medications for ADD are safe and effective. Research shows that medication is the single most effective treatment for ADD. It works for 80 to 90 percent of people who try it. When it works, it increases mental focus, which leads to improved performance in all domains of life.


That said, treating ADD is more complex than simply taking pills.

First of all, not any doctor will do, you need to find a doctor who knows what he's doing, who has been trained in treating ADD. Child psychiatrists have the most training in ADD and they also treat adults. But it seems they're hard to find. If a doctor prescribes Ritalin to you or your child 10 minutes after having met you or your child, go see another doctor.

Once you find a competent doctor, he or she will make a diagnostic. If you have ADD, the treatment can start. What is the best threatment for ADD? According to Hallowell:

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The best approach to treating ADD is to follow an individualized, comprehensive plan specifically designed for you, based on your particular situation and needs. One size does not fit all.


Here are the most common, key ingredients of such a comprehensive plan:

- Education. Learn what ADD is and what its not. This is important, since you'll have to convince yourself and the people around you that ADD isn't a bogus illness, that you're not just a lazy bastard. I'm not sure I'm fully convinced myself.

- Changes in lifestyle. For example, increase physical exercise, cut down on TV, videogames...

- Learn how to better structure your life. For example, how to plan, how to use to-do lists...

- Counseling

- Medication

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RITALIN IS A STREET DRUG MATT! DO YOU KNOW THAT!

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the widespread use of this drug disturbs me... the symptoms of ADD don't sound like they are abnormal. Kids having problems sitting still in class? Kids having problems paying attention in school? Maybe that's because schools sucks and is boring.

But instead of examining the real issue (why schools suck so much) we drug up our kids.

personally, i think giving all these kids ritalin to the extreme is child abuse.

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the widespread use of this drug disturbs me... the symptoms of ADD don't sound like they are abnormal. Kids having problems sitting still in class? Kids having problems paying attention in school? Maybe that's because schools sucks and is boring.

But instead of examining the real issue (why schools suck so much) we drug up our kids.

personally, i think giving all these kids ritalin to the extreme is child abuse.


I admit, there are problems. Overdiagnosis and, probably, overmedication. But that doesn't mean that ADD is a bogus illness and hence doesn't need to be treated. There's no need of pulling a Tom Cruise, you know. Like Hallowell pointed out:

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Q: Is ADD overdiagnosed among children?

A: Yes, but also no. It is overdiagnosed in some places, underdiagnosed in others. There are schools and regions where every child who blinks fast seems to get diagnosed with ADD. At the same time, there are places around the country where doctors refuse to make the diagnosis at all because they "don't believe in ADD." ADD is not a religious principle; it is a medical diagnosis derived from such solid evidence as genetic studies, brain scans and worldwide epidemiological surveys.


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the symptoms of ADD don't sound like they are abnormal. Kids having problems sitting still in class? Kids having problems paying attention in school?


Maybe because those are not the symptoms of ADD? Or, to be more exact, are not sufficient to conclude that someone suffers from ADD. Diagnosing ADD is a lot more complex than you let on, and it takes time. Doctors who prescribe Ritalin 10 minutes after having interviewed someone are either incompetent, or they don't have the time to make a proper assessment.

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But Jon, you're so well adjusted in person.

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thanks

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I used to work at the site where they manufactured the active pharmaceutical ingredient (Novartis Grimsby). Horrible place filled with horrible people...

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I used to work at the site where they manufactured the active pharmaceutical ingredient (Novartis Grimsby). Horrible place filled with horrible people...


People like this?

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