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What about Canadians in Toronto?

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What about Canadians in Toronto?


That i do have a problem with. Seems like the new chief has just stated to the media that all the gun play is attributed to guns smuggled up from the states.

I would like to know just how they can prove this.

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Silly Kentuckians.

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According to the gun nuts, the whole point of owning firearms is so that an oppressive regime can be overthrown (just like in Saddam's Iraq). In other words, so you can kill people with different political views.

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Not condoning, just saying. Dueling has been the norm, historically. Not just in USA.
Japan made it illegal in 1889.
Throughout Europe from the Renaissance through to the 1800's (and up to the 1920's in Italy), the Duel was considered a reasonable, appropriate and acceptable (although often technically illegal and harshly punished if discovered) way for people of import to settle their differences.

Just trivia.


This is 2005. I don't know any civilised country where duelling is legal today.

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Those who bring up the point about other weapons that could have used really need to compare the lethalness of guns compared to other weapons.


Stab wounds are more deadly than bullet wounds on average.

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Do you also expect dealers of sextoys to be "carrying" ?


I believe in this case the proper term is "packing".

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As long as Americans with guns stay within their border. I don't really have a problem with what they do with them.


Sweet! Come on boys, let's drive drunk up to the Canadian border and empty our guns into Canada.

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Flub! Actually, you're quite right...we didn't disagree in any of the text you posted...only in the sentiment that you seem to be in support of gun control, and I'm on the other side of that fence.

And nope...I don't disagree with anything in your earlier posts, except with the conclusion that these reasons are sufficient cause to implement an outright ban or even tighter gun control.

The "nuke" question, oft raised by Ted Stryker....I'd support it NOT being made publically available, of course, and my reasoning FOR that would be that (since Dubya is still Prez...unfortunately...I'll use his vernacular) "nucular" stuff ought to be considered a strategic resource and kept out of the hands of the general public as a matter of policy.

As for the mortar...I'm all for it (even tho I've never seen the need, nor a reason to own one of those either). I think, though, that such ownership should come with strings, already spelled out in our constitution. Owning such weapons should require one to register as part of a "well regulated militia."

And glad you liked the tangent!

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link?

in regards to the mortar,isnt that somewhat overkill? the ak-47 leaning against the wall in my basement is enough weapon for me.i dont expect to be going up against anything that needs a mortar what,do you have a tank in your garage also?

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They would have just used baseball bats



Aren't they used in a game ?


What's the gun equivalent of the use of a bat in baseball ?


Driveby Dodge ?


Colt 45 Clue ?


Lethal Weapon Ludo ?


Twister Terminator ?


Saturday Night Special Subbuteo- He Shoots, He Scores!!!!

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You missed the obvious - Russian Roulette.

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You missed the obvious - Russian Roulette.



I eschew the obvious as being too obvious.


Ermm... Winchester Winner Takes All.

Gun Go

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They would have just used baseball bats


and it would have been unlikely one man would be dead

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far west!
too slow to draw
so stupid though

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Stab wounds are more deadly than bullet wounds on average.


No, they're not. They're about one-fourth as likely to be fatal.

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Let me beat you with my baseball bat, and then you tell me if your still alive.

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I'm amazed that they let the survivor go so quickly. In a fair draw it's generally likely that the first man to go for his gun is going to be the one who wins. Did the man who died fumble his weapon? If I were the police I'd be inclined to hold the killer for a decent interval while I investigated.

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Zell Miller strikes again!

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Let me beat you with my baseball bat, and then you tell me if your still alive.


there are very few people who would have the bottle to beat someone to death with a bat whereas many many more could pull a trigger

But hey, what do I care if gun nuts shoot each other in the USA and that society gives them access to firearms?

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I eschew the obvious as being too obvious.


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Just remembered, the Finns actually has a game called Jorka (or something like that) which involves guns.

After a visit to the sauna you drink a lot of vodka. Then all goes into a room. When the light are shut (?), everybody starts shooting and the last survivor is the winner.

It can also be played by one person, but then you need a lot more vodka.

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too bad the guys already had kids, or else this would be a darwin award

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Stab wounds are more deadly than bullet wounds on average.


Need bigger guns. And ammo.

http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/slr/slr.htm

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Did the man who died fumble his weapon?


Probably... he was the guy against the war... no irony there

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Flub! Actually, you're quite right...we didn't disagree in any of the text you posted...


Exactly

quote:
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only in the sentiment that you seem to be in support of gun control, and I'm on the other side of that fence.


Actually I think I said in two different ways that I didn't know if gun control would have prevented this or if any law would have prevented these guys from carrying

My problem is that I HATE guns. Never owned one and never saw the need. But I can respect people who choose to own a gun and my discomfort with them shouldn't rule.

I do think that Americans have taken their constitutional right to bear arms to an extreme when they ignore the part about a well regulated militia. At the same time I am practical enough to know that gun control in the US is a joke given the huge numbers of guns out there. heck it would take 50 years to make a dent in the armaments out there and in the meantime you would have a situation where only the MOST law abiding of citizens would not have guns

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Stab wounds are more deadly than bullet wounds on average.



I call BS


err I see Dr Strangelove already has and I'll take his assertion on this over yours.


In addition I bet there are a lot of times where two knives can get drawn and each party just backs away-- heck just one of them backs away-- no wounds at all. In the same situation with guns drawn, someone will usually get shot-- its just so easy.

Again, I'll acknowledge that people can kill each other with a wide range of things . . . all I want the pro-gun folks to aknowledge is that guns make killing so sickeningly easy.

Add in that many murders are NOT planned in any way and in fact the perpetrator is usually genuinely remorseful. So many stupid stupid altercations which might have ended with someone getting pushed down but instead ends with someone dead simply becasue a gun was near at hand


I don't know that gun control could ever work in the US and am saddened to see a culture that values them so very much

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Sweet! Come on boys, let's drive drunk up to the Canadian border and empty our guns into Canada.


Yeehaw! And while we are doing that Billy-Bob can serenade us with his banjo. Then when we are done shooting at canucks we can go hunt down our sisters cause we are feelin frisky tonight boys. Yeehaw!

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Uhm, Canada has guns too.

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No, they're not. They're about one-fourth as likely to be fatal.


Are you talking about knife wounds in general (ie stab and slash wounds) or stab wounds specifically?

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your suggestion is idiotic but please persist with it for our amusement

 
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