11-08-2005 10:50									#1
	"Vasselation Plan" or turning the tables on AM Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

O.k., here is what we do:

1) we tell AM that we have gone ahead and made the decision to Vassdelize. But, we also tell them that it was very close and we have made an executive desision, because the vote was tied and we don't want them to wait any longer for Beta to get back and cast his vote.

2) We tell AM, that we would humbly request the following sequence of events, towards building our partnership (as it would be in thier interest to have us contributing to them sooner, rather than later):

2a) Babylon, Inaana's Throne, Kurra & Hookah will all build settlers, for the resettlement. Afterwards, IT & Babylon will be taken by force. Hookah & Kurra will be gifted to AM, as part of the final peace.

2b) Potamia will become, atleast for a time, our New Capatol. For this to happen, we need to increase it's population. We have workers headed that way, but it will be a few more turns before they arrive.

2c) As we will lose our Ivory, when Babylon is taken, we request that they have a road built, Connecting their New and old sections, so that they can trade it with us. This might take some time and would like to know a probible TOC for this. Also, in relation to this, if they can delay taking of Babylon, at least to the point where it's only a very short time, between losing it and getting it back.

3) as per their treaty, they will also be giving us extra of their Luxes/resources. Again, the road, as that will give us Iron and Horses back. Also, we will be working on getting another silks set, ready to send to them.

4) we tell them (maybe) about threatening stuff from BoH and ask them if they have any troop movement Intel. Also, what are their plans to deal with BoH? Especially, if BoH is coming for us now?

Guys, We need to make them think that we will be cooperating, as much as possible.

Also, we need to tread carefully, with BoH. We tell Those clowns, that we have very good Intel, concering AM and see if we can con mono from them for it. We let them know, after haggling over the price of the intel, what AM is planning to do. We especially point out to them, AM's Plans for 3 prebuilds, in 3 cities, and how that will effect AM's GA war production. Also, hitting them, at the right time, will force them to change builds and lose a lot of shields. Plus, if will likely f#ck with AM's Palace move plans.


Also, please be careful, as AM might already know about Paddy's recent e-mail. That might also be a roose, to see if we will expedite thing, which is the opposite from what we want....

Anyways, it's late and I need to hit the sack. I'll try to add more to this, soetime tomorrow.

E_T

	11-08-2005 22:10									#2
	Full PM-box? Change here!

If we believe there is ANY chance that BOH and AM know of eachother's plans and we are being played, we need to be very careful.

I seem to remember a similar situation just a few turns ago. We were going to ally with AM, and BOH was threatening us. Now we are going to become vassels of AM, and BOH is claiming to be ready to march all over us.

What to do what to do?

I say we try for peace with BOH, but offer little. Needs to be done soon as BOH doesn't wait long.

We start that Vasselization process but back out before we abandon our capital.

Where do we stand with LB? They should be kept informed of these moves.

	12-08-2005 10:44									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I think this is probably our best plan, with the possible exception of telling BOH we'll sell them information on AM (and doing so). Great if it works, but I'm beginning to suspect they may have formed an alliance, in which case BOH may simply be testing the trustworthiness waters for AM. Not necessarily true, the chain of events could have all happened from opportunism, but it would also fit cordial BOH-AM relations.

Don't get me wrong, we definitely need to talk to BOH, but we should be cautious about saying we want to sell them intel on AM's weaknesses.