12-08-2005 02:49									#31
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I don't know why. I've never worked in a union shop and don't consider myself any worse off for that fact. Union shops can have bad relations with their workers just as much as can non-union shops. Likewise with good employee relations.

	12-08-2005 02:57									#32
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even non union workers benefit from having unions.

At least they do in my city.

It drives all the wages up. In order to compete for talented workers, non union places have to provide wages and benefits similar to union ships, or they won't have any good workers to hire.

I have worked in the maintenance union. But in reality most casinos in Las Vegas are non union (Steve Wynn doesn't like union). But their maintenance workers make almost as much as union shops. In some cases more (but without the pension). This would not be the case if unions had never existed.

Though this kind of contradicts my earlier statement.

Because by this logic Walmart should provide similar pay and benefits to unionized cashiers (our grocercy clerks are unionized). And I have heard the pay at walmart isn't real bad. So I don't really expect them to unionize or hire union workers.

Walmart is okay in my book. I only hate them because they censore their music CD's, and don't advertise this fact. but I was happy they let me exchange my CD after I found out it had bleeps on every cuss word.

	12-08-2005 03:40									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki You didn't actually think it was pronounced "Tarzhay", did you? Or did you think Wal Mart was owned by a French company?

That would be Tarjay. :smugfrancophonegitsmilieplease:

	12-08-2005 03:46									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki I can literally count the number of times I've set foot in a Walmart on one hand. I've felt like I needed a shower after I left each time.

were they remodelling or something? Most of the wal marts I've been in seemed quite dust free.

	12-08-2005 03:53									#35
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perhaps he's talking about the people in them. You get mostly white trash and minorities. At least in my neighborhood. Not that I have anything against minorities.

Another reason I don't like walmart is all the screaming children. And children running down the isles. very annoying.

I wish I could live in a city in which there were no children. Children and babies annoy me.

	12-08-2005 10:59									#36
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Walmart is dirty, cramped, and crowded. The employees all seem like they have had the life sucked from them. It's a very depressing place to shop for low-quality products just to save a buck or two. I hate going to Walmart.

Sams Club, oddly enough, is quite different, and I always enjoy shopping there.

	12-08-2005 15:52									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Kontiki I can literally count the number of times I've set foot in a Walmart on one hand. I've felt like I needed a shower after I left each time.

Because of the little mess you made with the other hand?

	12-08-2005 17:02									#38
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Walmart has a nice selection of rifles.

	12-08-2005 19:15									#39
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara The employees all seem like they have had the life sucked from them.

We get it back when we clock out for the day. It's a defense against rude customers.

	12-08-2005 19:42									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Dis I only hate them because they censore their music CD's, and don't advertise this fact. but I was happy they let me exchange my CD after I found out it had bleeps on every cuss word.

They censor their music CDs?? What CD are you talking about?

	12-08-2005 19:46									#41
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No offense to DD, but I hate Wal-Mart. I flat-out refuse to shop there; I hate the homogenization of America.

The only purchase I have ever made at Wal-Mart was a full-blown five-alarm emergency. Ran out of condoms at an inconvenient hour.

	12-08-2005 19:48									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia They censor their music CDs?? What CD are you talking about?

They won't sell any cds that have parental warning labels on them.

	12-08-2005 19:50									#43
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And alter the images of CDs when they dont like what they see.

I also refuse to shop at Walmart.

	12-08-2005 19:50									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer No offense to DD, but I hate Wal-Mart. I flat-out refuse to shop there; I hate the homogenization of America. The only purchase I have ever made at Wal-Mart was a full-blown five-alarm emergency. Ran out of condoms at an inconvenient hour.

I'm glad my local kwik-e-mart style store has condoms, and at a reasonable price

	12-08-2005 19:54									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer No offense to DD, but I hate Wal-Mart.

I hate Wal-Mart as well. For different reasons. If I could find a job that paid as well, I'd take it in a heart beat.

	12-08-2005 20:06									#46
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There's always murder-for-hire.

	12-08-2005 20:12									#47
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Walmart is dirty, cramped, and crowded. The employees all seem like they have had the life sucked from them. It's a very depressing place to shop for low-quality products just to save a buck or two. I hate going to Walmart. Sams Club, oddly enough, is quite different, and I always enjoy shopping there.

The WalMart I shop at in Shawnee, Kansas is bright, clean, and fairly open (comparable to Target, as opposed to KMart).

Maybe it's just the WalMart in your area.

	12-08-2005 20:19									#48
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The Homogenization of America was well along long before WalMart appeared on the scene.

	12-08-2005 20:24									#49
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And they're just making it worse, aren't they?

Not to mention their appalling labor practices...

	12-08-2005 20:26									#50
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Appalling? Harass the women and make the old drooling dudes hang out front... and get the retard pumping slurpees

	12-08-2005 20:45									#51
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What's wrong with homogenization?

	12-08-2005 22:18									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Theben And alter the images of CDs when they dont like what they see.

That's crazy! It sounds like it would be against the law somehow...I mean, if I were an artist whose music was being sold in Walmart I wouldn't be too happy about them altering my CD art.

	12-08-2005 23:26									#53
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quote: Originally posted by DanS I don't know why. I've never worked in a union shop and don't consider myself any worse off for that fact. Union shops can have bad relations with their workers just as much as can non-union shops. Likewise with good employee relations.

That's a fair, realistic and balanced assessment. Wal-mart, on the other hand, flatly refuse to deal with unions whatever their reputation- and have been known to close stores that unionise.

	12-08-2005 23:38									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Dis Let's talk about Target instead. I prefer Target over walmart.

I believe WalMart is currently targetting Target for a corporate takeover.

Ironic isn't it...just the other day I was saying there's way too much competition in America and we should instead be building up our cartels.

	12-08-2005 23:48									#55
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You guys must live in a hellhole or something. Wal Mart is always clean and uncrowded here.

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc We get it back when we clock out for the day. It's a defense against rude customers.

Sprayber thinks back to the day when everyone thought they were the only customer in the store.

What department do you work in DD? I'm a vetern of Sporting Goods, Garden Center and Toys.

	13-08-2005 00:11									#57
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quote: Originally posted by mrmitchell You guys must live in a hellhole or something. Wal Mart is always clean and uncrowded here.

Case in point. Jonesboro AR has two walmarts. The older one is overcrowed, loud, and usualy the aisles are full of employees with stock being shelved during the day hours. The newer one has an almost sleepy atmosphere. It's cleaner, quiter and the people there are generally were more helpfull.

	13-08-2005 00:20									#58
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In the last thread you asked how much of an impact Wal Mart had on the Arkansas economy...thanks to walmartfacts.com, here are the numbers:

quote: originally posted by http://www.walmartfacts.com/community/article.aspx?id=143 In Arkansas, the total number of Wal-Mart associates is 45,654 (as of July 2005). The average wage for regular full-time hourly associates in Arkansas is $9.18 per hour (Wal-Mart Discount Stores, Supercenters and Neighborhood Markets). Additionally, associates are eligible for performance-based bonuses. In recent years, Wal-Mart has contributed four percent of an associate's eligible pay to their combined Profit Sharing and 401(k) Plan. Suppliers In 2004, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. spent $6,701,157,890 for merchandise and services with 1,864 suppliers in the state of Arkansas. As a result of Wal-Mart's relationship with these suppliers, Wal-Mart supports 67,363 supplier jobs in the state of Arkansas. Supplier figures provided by Dun & Bradstreet Taxes and Fees Wal-Mart collected on behalf of the state of Arkansas more than $363 million in sales taxes in 2004. Wal-Mart paid more than $86.5 million in state and local taxes in the state of Arkansas in 2004. Community Involvement In 2004, Wal-Mart Stores and SAM'S CLUB gave $21,803,941 to local causes and organizations in the communities they serve in the state of Arkansas. In addition, many charities and organizations received in-kind donations and additional funds raised through stores, CLUBS and distribution centers in the amount of $2,774,235, for a grand total of $24,578,176 contributed through Wal-Mart's presence across the state. Examples of some of the efforts in Arkansas that our company made in 2004 to reach out to the community include: Safe Neighborhood Heroes Grants: $203,100 Literacy Grants: $146,500 Community Scholarships: $170,971 Teacher of the Year Grants: $113,000 Arkansas' 2004 Teacher of the Year is Shannon King from Flippin Elementary School in Flippin.

Arkansas facts

quote: originally posted by Wikipedia - Arkansas The state's total gross state product for 2003 was $76 billion.

Therefore - "$6,701,157,890" is approximately 11% of $76 billion, so I'm not an economist, but that seems to say 11% of Arkansas's products are bought by Wal Mart.

Arkansas jobs

quote: originally posted by Bureau of Labor Statistics website Preliminary jobs number for June 2005: 1,171,800

"45,654" assosciates employed directly by Wal Mart = approx 3.9%

"67,363" employees of suppliers = approx 5.7%

Wal Mart assosciates plus supplier employees = 113,017 = approx 9.6%

Is this helpful? I think the numbers (9-11% or so) are similar for sales tax collections.

	13-08-2005 00:24									#59
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Jesus Christ... Walmart is one-tenth of your economy?

	13-08-2005 00:26									#60
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quote: Jesus Christ... Walmart is one-tenth of your economy?

How much is it with the federal government and northern Virginia?