14-08-2005 05:31									#1
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Please elaborate on specific tomato or cream based sauce recipes.

This could be a great recipe database.

	14-08-2005 05:40									#2
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My absolute favorate sauce is carabonara, which is an oil based sauce, but I don't eat it all that much. It's too rich and expensive if made properly (with pancetta and prosciutto).

My main pasta sauce is arabiata, or Southern Italian spicy red sauce, often with some Italian sausage mixed in.

	14-08-2005 05:51									#3
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1. sautee chopped onions in a pan

2. add garlic

3. add Lamb mince

4. add basil and oregano

5. add chopped tomatoes, tomato paste and red wine

I don't know how to do it any other way... but correct me if I'm wrong.

	14-08-2005 05:54									#4
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If you like it, it's not wrong.

	14-08-2005 06:02									#5
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That's true... but if there's a better way... then it's even better.

My local shop sold jars of arabiata for a while... lovely stuff. They stopped selling it for some reason though. How is it made?

	14-08-2005 06:04									#6
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Dunno.

	14-08-2005 07:57									#7
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google it or even better wikipedia it, ya never know there could be a recipe!

	14-08-2005 09:44									#8
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I prefer tomato based sauces, though white clam sauce is good.

Carbonara can be ok, thought its too heavy for me most of the time.

	14-08-2005 09:44									#9
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara My absolute favorate sauce is carabonara, which is an oil based sauce, but I don't eat it all that much. It's too rich and expensive if made properly (with pancetta and prosciutto).

Carbonara is cream based (or better said, cheese based), not oil based.

	14-08-2005 10:36									#10
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Tomatoes for teh win!!11!11

Of course, whatever it is as long as it's from Italy I'll eat it.

	14-08-2005 11:59									#11
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I tend to prefer types of pesto (oil based) over tomato sauces, but tht's only a rough rule. I love pesto genovese (much basilic) and its variants, but also pesto siciliano (with nuts/pinoli and peccorino-cheese).
With Penne, there's only Arrabiata though. Spaghetti Bolognese are a hit when prepared properly and "teh horror!!11!11" when consumed in a bad restaurant.

	14-08-2005 13:00									#12
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My favorite is a tomato cream base, so I can't vote.

	14-08-2005 13:29									#13
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Carbonara isn't oil based I agree. I do it with cream, egg and pancetta (plus parmeggiano), basta.
I more often eat tomato based, mostly bolognese (with lots of parmeggiano too).

	14-08-2005 16:54									#14
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I switch off between a tomato-based sauce (take a couple of jars of the Classico garlicky sauce, add some tomato paste, garlic, hot salsa, dave's insanity sauce, black pepper, and ground beef), a clam cream-based sauce (heavy cream, clam chowder, clams, shrimp, garlic, white wine, cook with cubed chicken), and a mushroom cream-based sauce (golden mushroom soup, cream of mushroom soup, dry onion soup mix, garlic, sherry, diced mushrooms, cook with cubed beef).

	14-08-2005 17:18									#15
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Heat a tiny little bit of (olive) oil in a pot and cook minced meat until it has a nice brown color. Use a spoon or something else to make sure the meat is cut into little pieces while cooking.
In another pot add some (olive) oil and fry onions, little branches of broccoli and garlic. As for the tomatoes, I usually take them from a can, already cut into pieces and add them. If you want fresh tomatoes, you have to slightly cut into their skin, cook them and peel them before adding them. Finally add the cooked meat to the other pot and stir it for a while.

Tests best if you add some cheese (not necessarily Parmesan) when serving.

	14-08-2005 18:59									#16
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I'll use the Bertolli or Classico as a base, whatever I could get on sale with a coupon. I take some olive oil and saute garlic, fresh oregeno from our garden, and basil. Then I add onoins, peppers, squash (sauteed zucchini does not turn to mush), finally adding some fresh mushrooms. When it's all cooked about two thirds of the way, I add the tomato sauce and cook everything together for about 15 minutes. I typically end up with a very hearty sauce. No meat because my wife is thinking about going vegan, and I don't mind meatless tomato based sauces.

	14-08-2005 19:46									#17
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A tip - for truly Italian style, never let your garlic and onions be browned. Cook them slowly under a low flame until they are translucent. WASPS brown their onions.

In our house, because of peasant sauce we probably use oil-based most often - we also make a *****ing linguini w/ clam sauce. However, my mom's tomato sauce is extremely excellent...

I find it impossible to truly enjoy a cream sauce - all I can think about is how bad for me it is... We don't eat them at all, as far as I can remember.

	14-08-2005 23:15									#18
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The 2 best sauces are both made without tomato or cream, because they´re green pesto and walnut pesto

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quote: Originally posted by monolith94 A tip - for truly Italian style, never let your garlic and onions be browned. Cook them slowly under a low flame until they are translucent.

It's called sweating.

quote: WASPS brown their onions.

I've seen plenty of recipies that call for sauteed aromatics.

	14-08-2005 23:24									#20
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Carbonara is cream based (or better said, cheese based), not oil based.

I guess that depends on how you make it. I use rather a lot of olive oil frying up the garlic, pancetta, and prosciutto, and that all goes in to the egg, cheese, and parsley mixture.

	15-08-2005 02:39									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Datajack Franit The 2 best sauces are both made without tomato or cream, because they´re green pesto and walnut pesto

This man is an Italian - better believe him. And he even is Bolognese (at least at the moment).

	15-08-2005 02:41									#22
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I love pesto, but still think tomato cream is best.

	15-08-2005 04:12									#23
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quote: This man is an Italian - better believe him. And he even is Bolognese (at least at the moment).

I am a Bolognese since 10 months


Carbonara (a carbonaro is a coal mine worker) is an EGG based sauce, made with eggs, a small spoon of cream, and some herbs, which you may put or not following your own tastes. I like putting some estragon and some fresh parsley after cooking, topping the plate. Pancetta has nothing to do with raw ham-prosciutto-jambon ecru, which is only to be eaten as it is, no cooking allowed (the most you can do with it is putting raw prosciutto, cheese and fill some dead animal with that), bacon is way too salty, the real italian pancetta is sweet and very fat, so you just need a spoon of oil (sunflower because olive oil and egg may become bitter) so the pasta doesn´t stick to the pan

	15-08-2005 04:26									#24
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You put Oestrogen in your cooking?

	15-08-2005 04:50									#25
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estragon is a french herb

	15-08-2005 06:10									#26
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Will you grow breasts if you eat it?

	15-08-2005 06:13									#27
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oh why do I even bother trying

	15-08-2005 07:16									#28
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I believe estragon is tarragon.

But I'm just a poor anglo from Montreal, so what do I know...

	15-08-2005 10:01									#29
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pesto is my favorite...
basil or sun dried tomato... with lots of fresh garlic
fresh pasta.. no meat ... some mushrooms and black olives ... and grated asiago cheese on top.

	15-08-2005 10:56									#30
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Well! It's pasta for me tonight!

(I'll add some estragon to my girlfriends meal and see if anything happens)