17-08-2005 11:26									#61
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Bush-licker Columnist Linda Chavez wrote about Cindy claiming the US used nuclear weapons in Iraq.

NEWSFLASH for Linda:
Depleted uranium is a long way off from nuclear weapons. Cindy knows the difference, why can't you?

	17-08-2005 11:27									#62
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It's like the same thing over and over again from the Reactionaries.

Don't like what someone is saying? Smear them.

Predictable. I don't put any weight into the attacks since I know what they're designed to do.

	17-08-2005 11:33									#63
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Here's the troll's column:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/...c20050817.shtml

	17-08-2005 11:37									#64
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How do people like Bush ending up being President anyway?

Its almost impossible to have a Prime Minister like that because they have to be very politically active and savvy to get the leader gig in the first place.

	17-08-2005 11:40									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse How do people like Bush ending up being President anyway?

When smarter people manipulate the system to make sure it happens. From slick campaigning to shady dealings, just about anyone can be put into office.

	17-08-2005 12:30									#66
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Speaks for itself and speaks volumes...

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	17-08-2005 12:34									#67
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I think that anti-war people who appropriate the cause of the trooops are just as stupid as the pro-war ones

	17-08-2005 12:35									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Az I think that anti-war people who appropriate the cause of the trooops are just as stupid as the pro-war ones

God forbid they have the audacity to demand the troops be brought home safely.

	17-08-2005 12:39									#69
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Az, you must absolutely hate it when families who've lost loved ones to car accidents decide to put up small memorials along the side of the road and later turn to road safety advocacy like Mothers Against Drunk Driving (M.A.D.D.), right? How dare they appropriate the memory of victims of drunk drivers.

	17-08-2005 12:44									#70
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quote: God forbid they have the audacity to demand the troops be brought home safely.

God forbid they have the audacity to demand the troops be allowed to do their job.

And comparing going to war with car accidents is really silly. Might as well say that it would be stupid to place these signs if they wanted to ban driving.


Look, I am not taking sides, really - but appropriating the memory of the dead sucks ass. Just like in 9/11.

	17-08-2005 12:54									#71
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quote: The President lied. He died.

quote: She was opposed to the war from the outset, Ted. She's just mad she didn't get to yell at him.

And being right hurts her credibility? What does that have to do with the fact her opinion of Bush nose-dived upon learning her son died in a war built on falsehoods if not out right lies. I saw O'Reilly accuse her of lying based on the fact she had a better opinion of Bush after the first meeting. This means no one may ever lose respect for another? Bush went from being just another President at a time of war to a President who lied to get us into a war that took her son.

	17-08-2005 12:58									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse How do people like Bush ending up being President anyway? Its almost impossible to have a Prime Minister like that because they have to be very politically active and savvy to get the leader gig in the first place.

because people like me voted for him in 2000.

	17-08-2005 12:59									#73
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If Congress had any balls they'd impeach him and the VP.

	17-08-2005 13:13									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker If Congress had any balls they'd impeach him and the VP.

on what grounds?

	17-08-2005 13:33									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Dis because people like me voted for him in 2000.

yeah reminds of something a comedy show here did before our last election - they showed the crazy answers they'd get from from people in the street about current issues and then this big sign would come across the screen as they were talking nonsense saying THIS PERSON VOTES.

It was hilarious.

	17-08-2005 17:47									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker What does that have to do with the fact her opinion of Bush nose-dived upon learning her son died in a war built on falsehoods if not out right lies. I saw O'Reilly ...

What does your O'Reilly fetish have to do with a) the fact she has already met Bush or b) anything else in the post of mine you quoted?

	17-08-2005 19:53									#77
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Bush seems to go on holidays a lot - how much does the average American get? 2 weeks per year?

	17-08-2005 21:21									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov Except Sheehan denies she ever said that. Is there a verifiable source? According to her, someone got a hold of an actual e-mail she wrote to Nightline and then added the comments about Israel. Considering the outright falsehoods the likes of Drudge have flung at her, I wouldn't be surprised in the least.

presumably ABC knows the truth.

	17-08-2005 23:12									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Az quote: God forbid they have the audacity to demand the troops be brought home safely. God forbid they have the audacity to demand the troops be allowed to do their job.

War isn't a job. It's a crime against humanity.

	17-08-2005 23:13									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Dis on what grounds?

Lying to Congress.

	18-08-2005 07:24									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker And being right hurts her credibility? What does that have to do with the fact her opinion of Bush nose-dived upon learning her son died in a war built on falsehoods if not out right lies. I saw O'Reilly accuse her of lying based on the fact she had a better opinion of Bush after the first meeting. This means no one may ever lose respect for another? Bush went from being just another President at a time of war to a President who lied to get us into a war that took her son.

Well said.

She feels betrayed in the worst way.

Our entire nation has been betrayed. Suckered, lied to. I'm outraged. I can't even imagine what a Mother who lost her son to a lie must feel like.

I'd guess you'd have to actually be in her shoe DinoDoc. But that would actually require empathy.

	18-08-2005 08:03									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Az I think that anti-war people who appropriate the cause of the trooops are just as stupid as the pro-war ones

	18-08-2005 14:08									#83
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs God forbid they have the audacity to demand the troops be brought home safely.

They can audaciously demand anything they want, even if it is stupid and opposed by the vast majority of Americans. Conversely we can point out the fact that they are delusional and refuse to jump off a cliff with them just because they are so consumed with grief that they can't think straight.

	18-08-2005 14:12									#84
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I'm going to miss George Bush when he goes.

	18-08-2005 14:13									#85
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quote: War isn't a job. It's a crime against humanity.

No it isn't. Many wars are just and ethical.

	18-08-2005 14:16									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander They can audaciously demand anything they want, even if it is stupid and opposed by the vast majority of Americans.

"Vast" you say?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/200...thly_Update.htm

quote: Thirty-six percent (36%) give the President good or excellent ratings for handling the situation in Iraq. That is down a point from a month ago and down three from two months ago. Just 29% now say things will get better in Iraq over the next six months. That's down from 33% a month ago. Forty-eight percent (48%) expect things to get worse. Those figures are the most pessimistic since the January 30 elections in Iraq. At the beginning of 2005, just 28% of Americans thought the situation in Iraq would get better over the next six month. A Rasmussen Reports survey at the time found that 50% of Americans expected things to get worse. Thirty-five percent (35%) of Americans believe that, in the long run, the U.S. mission in Iraq will be viewed as a success. Forty-six percent (46%) believe it will be viewed as a failure. Those figures are also more pessimistic than last month.

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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs "Vast" you say? http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm http://www.rasmussenreports.com/200...thly_Update.htm

The vast majority of Americans don't think that pulling out immediately is wise.

	18-08-2005 14:36									#88
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pulling out would be insane

	18-08-2005 14:49									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander The vast majority of Americans don't think that pulling out immediately is wise.

And I would be one of them.

	18-08-2005 14:50									#90
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I wonder if this is what what it would have been like if Dan Quayle was President.