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..in order to spend more time with the families of soldiers killed in his wars. (Time out:0 days after 15-08-2005, 22:19)
Yes, it's the Christian thing to do
Yes, he'd do more good that way than as president
No, since 9/11 we needed his leadership and guidence in these times of turmoil. 9/11 has taught us that. 9/11
No, he should be out there shooting rifles around those protestors. This is Texas! Yeehah!
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DaShi is offline DaShi
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Sep 2000
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CRAWFORD, Texas (Aug. 15) - A man fired a shotgun into the air as about 60 anti-war protesters held a religious service on the road to President Bush's ranch.

Sheriff's deputies and Secret Service agents in the area of the demonstration site Sunday rushed to the home of Larry Mattlage after the shots were fired but did not arrest him.

"I ain't threatening nobody, and I ain't pointing a gun at nobody," Mattlage said. "This is Texas."

Cindy Sheehan of Vacaville, Calif., began a protest Aug. 6 on the road that leads to Bush's ranch in memory of her 24-year-old son Casey, who was killed in Iraq last year. Dozens of others have since joined her.

Sheehan said Sunday she will continue to demonstrate for three more weeks.

Mattlage said he was sympathetic toward the demonstrators at first, but they have blocked roads in the area and caused traffic problems.

He said he fired his gun in preparation for dove-hunting season but when asked if he had another motive, he said, "Figure it out for yourself."

"I'm just ready for dove season."

"When they first came out here, I was sympathetic to their cause. Right? They as American citizens have a right to march, to protest. But it's like company. If you had your brother-in-law in your house for five days, wouldn't it start stinking after a while?"

"They moved one port-a-potty. Now we got two port-a-pots. And now we got three, and if this keeps up, they'll be all the way at the end of the road."

Sheehan, 48, said she was not concerned with her own safety but has told others to be aware that "this could get physical, even though we are peaceful."

"I think we knew of the risks when we came down here," she said. "I'm surprised we haven't had more of that since we're in Bush country."

Sheehan says she won't leave her makeshift campsite until Bush meets with her and other grieving families or until his monthlong ranch visit ends. She met with two top White House officials on the first day of her demonstration.

Bush has said he sympathizes with Sheehan but has not said if he will meet with her.

Sherry Bohlen of Scottsdale, Ariz., drove with two friends to Crawford last week but did not leave Sunday as planned.

"This is history in the making, and it's hard to walk away from that," said Bohlen, whose son, Thor, has been in Iraq for a month.

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First of all, YES

Secondly, this showdown has been going on for about a week, and it's becoming a snowfall that's creating an avalanche.

This showdown is going to take him to an even lower place than ever before. That he won't meet her, and that he publicly rebuked her, makes him look like a cold hearted ass.

It's time for him, and his entire cabinet, to resign. NOW

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Well, of all the things he should resign for, this is the least compelling reason. Some nutter shoots off a gun near protesters?

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Why should he? Should he meet with everyone's family who has died for the country?

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Bush should resign then kill himself like a Roman general would do in order to avoid the shame and punishment of poor leadership.

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Japher: Yes, that would be ok.

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I guy in texas shot a gun..this is news?

As for, should Bush resign? No. As much as I despise the man, no. HIs entire cabinet on the other hand, should all hand in their resignations.

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quote:
Bush should resign then kill himself like a Roman general would do in order to avoid the shame and punishment of poor leadership.


ouch, my side hurts

quote:
Japher: Yes, that would be ok.


ok...

Sava is offline Sava
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Bush should resign then kill himself like a Roman general would do in order to avoid the shame and punishment of poor leadership.

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He said he sympathized with her, he didn' rebuke her.

She is just a greiving mother who can't understand that her sun died for what he believed in.

I, however, would not consider my parents protesting my death in war as a worthless sacrifice as a fitting tribute to my memory. Perhaps she should remember what he son believed in before using his name as part of a crusade.

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She is just a greiving mother who can't understand that her sun died for what he believed in.


Except that he was a deluded dupe of the fascists, just like you....

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And you're a deluded dupe of the red diaper dopper babies... your point?

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"She is just a greiving mother who can't understand that her sun died for what he believed in. "

I trust "he"= G.W.Bush?

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Except that he was a deluded dupe of the fascists, just like you....


Either way, she is using his death for her own ends, not her sons like she maintains.

DaShi is offline DaShi
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What are her ends? Stopping a war that's killing people's babies? Asking the president to show some responsibility for the havoc he causes at home and abroad? Annoying Texans?

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Did her son believe in the war? Why are we taking on faith what the President says, when, especially when it comes to Iraq, he's a known liar.

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Her son was a soldier who VOLUNTEERED to join the Army with the understanding that during his term of enlistment a war might break out, he might be sent to it, and he might be injured or EVEN KILLED. He still signed his enlistment papers. It is the job of a soldier to fight, and if needed, die for his country. What that soldier may or may not have personally believed is secondary to the needs of his country, and I really don't give a flying flip what his mother believes. If he wasn't prepared for all of that he shouldn't have joined up.

Wars happen and they suck for everyone. There are no winners in war, only varying degrees of losers. If you don't like it move to Switzerland.

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The President lied. He died.

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Well, of all the things he should resign for, this is the least compelling reason. Some nutter shoots off a gun near protesters?

Thaban puts it better than I could

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No!! At least he's not as big a warmonger as Cheney.

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DaShi, your mother should have retired about 9 months earlier.

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Yeah, you all want Cheney who has direct assets in Hallburtan to run the country. Right....

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Cheney, at least, wouldn't have the religious right sucking his cheney.

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Cheney, at least, wouldn't have the religious right sucking his cheney.


Rephrase,

Dick, at least, wouldn't have the religious right sucking his cheney.

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That he won't meet her
Hasn't he already met her once already?

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Hasn't he already met her once already?



I stand corrected.

Last edited by Ted Striker on 16-08-2005 at 08:51

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He said he sympathized with her, he didn' rebuke her.

She is just a greiving mother who can't understand that her sun died for what he believed in.

I, however, would not consider my parents protesting my death in war as a worthless sacrifice as a fitting tribute to my memory. Perhaps she should remember what he son believed in before using his name as part of a crusade.


He rebuked her when he started talking about (to parapharse) "the other side," and "those that do not want us to succeed."

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Actually the big story here is the showdown between the mother and Bush. The gunshot thing is just kinda a side thing really.

 
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