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Would an active nuclear deterrant stop the proliferation of Nuc. Wep. esp. in Iran? (Time out:0 days after 16-08-2005, 03:07)
Yes, this is the only method would work, why didn't I think of it?
Yes, but this kind of thinking leads to terrible things?
No, are you out of your mind?
No, it will accelerate Nuclear Proliferation!
Banana Nukes?
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Thorn is offline Thorn
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May 1999
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Use of Nuclear Detterant on Iran. Inflate your Upload Space

But before Ming comes on here let me explain:

Since the beginning of the Nuclear Age the threatened Use of Nuclear Weapons have been a detterant and ended World War II with the dropping of 2 Atomic Bombs on Japan.

Analyzing the expected pitfalls as addressed by many members in the other thread about the use of force in Iran, I came to a simple conclusion. Any military action either by airstrikes or by an even more unlikely invasion would lead to the acceleration of 3rd World Countries Attempts to gain Nuclear Weapons. This is costly both financially, and to global stability especially among the supposedly allied nations.

So, what would deter a country from pursueing a Nuclear Arsenal? Certainly wars won't, nor will diplomacy? How about facing certain annihlation? --Yeah that would do it.

I know this measure would be seen as extreme especially to you Europeans, but it would send a clear and decisive message to all countries-- Pursue your weapons of mass destruction, and Your nation will no longer exist!

My suggestion to President Bush, is if diplomacy fails, to use our Nuclear Deterrant on Iran's Nuclear Facility. This is the only way to stop the proliferation of Nuclear Weapons in the World.

I talked it over with My God, and he was the one that suggested this to me. While he doesn't like loss of life, he does not like at all what Iran is doing, and what it is leading the world into.

So here I pose the question to my fellow Apolytoners, from varied backgrounds, ethnicities, and nations, would a nuclear deterrant in Iran stop the proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and solve the Iranian Nuclear Crisis?

SlowwHand is offline SlowwHand
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Nuke them until they glow, then nuke them for glowing.
Nah. Waste of good nukes.

Thorn is offline Thorn
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No this is a serious viable option. You do remember that the US government at one point envisioned the use of Tactical Nuclear Weapons in limited War, this is what I'm talking about.

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No, and you are out of your mind. At least, when it comes to Iran.

Thorn is offline Thorn
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Why so, Japan wouldn't stop until it faced certain annihilation, you think Iran would be any different?

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Are you out of your ****ing mind?

I think the answer is yes.... Japan had invaded most of Asia... Iran has... persued a weapons program. Bit of a difference.

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Why so, Japan wouldn't stop until it faced certain annihilation, you think Iran would be any different?




You are deluded, aren;t you?

1. You said "tactical nukes". So Iran would certainly not face destruction.

2. Deterence is making sure someone does not attack you. That implies that nukes will NOT be used unless you or an ally is attacked,, perhaps by nuclear weapons themselves.

You are proposing the US creating an OFFENSIVE nuclear policy, which is not deterence, but cohersive-the very opposite of Deterence.

Please understand the terms you use before you misuse them.

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Kids these days and their nukes.
I long for the days of good old-fashion trench warfare, dirigibles, and aeroplanes dropping mustard gas bombs.

Ted Striker is offline Ted Striker
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As was said earlier:

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND????

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nuke texas
nuke the south
nuke albania
nuke saudi arabia



then nuke iran

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Thorn, ARE YOU FRICKIN' OUT OF YOUR MIND!?!

I think you need to see a psycologist, NOW.

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Thorn is offline Thorn
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You are deluded, aren;t you?

1. You said "tactical nukes". So Iran would certainly not face destruction.

2. Deterence is making sure someone does not attack you. That implies that nukes will NOT be used unless you or an ally is attacked,, perhaps by nuclear weapons themselves.

You are proposing the US creating an OFFENSIVE nuclear policy, which is not deterence, but cohersive-the very opposite of Deterence.

Please understand the terms you use before you misuse them.


Actually I wasn't saying that tactical nukes should be used, what I was saying that there is/was a(n) actual system that was designed for limited nuclear warfare, and think tanks and the like actually considered such possibilities.

You are telling me that an offensive nuclear policy would not deter someone from making weapons of mass destruction, maybe it won't if they are psychotic, but in that case there won't be anyone left to make weapons of mass destruction, so deductive cold logic states this is a viable answer to the problems presented by the systems inequalities in the grand equation of reality. --I just love saying so little as so much at the same time

And now I don't think I'm out of my mind, we should have used an A-bomb in Vietnam as well. Setting an example is very important in a world where people don't understand logic but just violence. And what example will we be setting, we are the big fish, mess with us, and you will get eaten!

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May 2002
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Sava



PEACE THROUGH WAR!!!

Wasn't the brotherhood of nod the bad guys?

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Nov 2001
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yup

let's deal with the worst evil first... then move down the line

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The scariest thingabout this thread is that i'm sure some of the guys in my sig have already been pushing for it to happen.

Let these people near power and they really could screw the world up(and are as we type). Its often the problem when you let pure theory+acedemic guys try to rule the real world with their fantasy schemes.

Thorn is offline Thorn
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You know I think I might run for President when I get a little older, will you poly's vote for me?

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well with the current results in your poll - it looks like you could win a term

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