17-08-2005 00:00									#1
	44 new OS security fixes in massive patch! Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

For OS X.


"The most secure operating system", OS X, has a new patch fixing an impressive 44 security flaws. http://news.com.com/Apple+unloads+d...ml?tag=nefd.top

Some of these flaws are extremely serious, like how opening a simple .RTF (rich text file) can use a buffer overflow that permits "arbitrary code" to run on the system (ie, virus, spyware, worm, whatever).

Similarly, clicking on a malicious link in Safari bypasses all security checks and allows the hacker to run arbitrary commands (including rm -rf / theoretically).

Yet another in Apple's "Server Manager D" -- it uses a buffer overflow to allow remote execution of arbitrary code without any user interaction.

Can we all agree that the reason OS X has no viruses has little to do with the code, and everything to do with its irrelevance in the marketplace?

	17-08-2005 00:05									#2
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"My threads don't need any ideas, they're all blatant trolls." - Asher

	17-08-2005 00:09									#3
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OS X doesnt have viruses cuz its a virgin.

Windows gets all the ladies, and suffers the side-effects.

	17-08-2005 00:19									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Can we all agree that the reason OS X has no viruses has little to do with the code, and everything to do with its irrelevance in the marketplace?

Works for me...

	17-08-2005 00:45									#5
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quote: Windows gets all the ladies, and suffers the side-effects.

Windows needs to wrap it up. Didnt it pay attention in sex ed?

	17-08-2005 01:26									#6
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is there anyone else who thinks that asher's collection of records needs some expanding ?

	17-08-2005 01:28									#7
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It's just a friendly reminder to all of my friends who are immune to viruses and spyware to update.

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friendly reminders

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quote: Originally posted by Asher friendly reminder

If it looks like a troll, walks like a troll, smells like a troll... it's a troll

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there are 3 horses Asher rides:

-Anti Linux/Apple troll threads.
-Threads about gayety, and gays.
-Threads about how alberta is heaven on earth.

I don't think I remember him making any other threads.

	17-08-2005 02:25									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Az there are 3 horses Asher rides: -Anti Linux/Apple troll threads. -Threads about gayety, and gays. -Threads about how alberta is heaven on earth. I don't think I remember him making any other threads.

Gay windows users from Alberta.

	17-08-2005 02:32									#12
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Trolls

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And is it a troll that live under the bridge over troubled water?

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And now on CNN's Breaking News: massive worm outbreak expected.

	17-08-2005 03:43									#16
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Your computer already seems to be infected. Go buy an iMac.

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What timing.

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quote: Originally posted by Ninot OS X doesnt have viruses cuz its a virgin. Windows gets all the ladies, and suffers the side-effects.

I'm not that sure Windows is male. If you consider all those penetrations it has suffered, it must be a female working in the oldest known trade.

	17-08-2005 05:24									#19
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Maybe windows is a gay man???

	17-08-2005 05:27									#20
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Huh ? IMO The funniest part about this is that Asher loves Firefox, which is invulnerable in part because its marketshare is low aswell.

	17-08-2005 05:35									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf Huh ? IMO The funniest part about this is that Asher loves Firefox, which is invulnerable in part because its marketshare is low aswell.

Firefox is not invulnerable, and anyone who claims that is clueless.

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Plus, Firefox has a decent share of the market

	17-08-2005 05:56									#23
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What is it up to now , 8-9%? And by invulnerable I meant invulnerable relative to IE, quite clearly

I will be the first to admit I have no idea what I am talking about but I think I am right about this.

	17-08-2005 05:59									#24
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quote: originally posted by Wiglaf I have no idea what I am talking about

QFT

	17-08-2005 06:05									#25
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If Microsoft gets it right, the new version of Windows won't suffer nearly as many of these problems. Expect Asher to crow about it, even though it will effectively refute the argument that he's been making (without any real evidence) for three or four years now.

	17-08-2005 06:07									#26
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Funnily enough , the Zotob worm ( which affects Windows ) has just hit the news networks' networks . And it affects unpatched 2000 , Server 2003 , and XP boxes .

Trolling .

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	17-08-2005 06:12									#27
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I was laughing about that in an earlier post. It took down all the computers at CNN.

	17-08-2005 06:26									#28
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quote: Originally posted by aneeshm Funnily enough , the Zotob worm ( which affects Windows ) has just hit the nesw networks' networks . And it afects unpatched 2000 , Server 2003 , and XP boxes . Trolling .

Unpatched Windows 2000 boxes are the only ones really affected (can be hit without user login and remotely).

Unpatched Windows XP boxes require user credentials (remote login).

Unpatched Windows XP SP2 (and Windows 2003) boxes require both user credentials and a local login only.

Several of the vulnerabilities addressed by Apple's latest patch are far worse (in that several of them don't require logins and work remotely), but there's just no worm built for them -- what's the point, so you can take out 3 emo kid's porn computers?

The last strangehold of Apple -- the media -- has moved to Windows, too.

	17-08-2005 06:34									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon If Microsoft gets it right, the new version of Windows won't suffer nearly as many of these problems. Expect Asher to crow about it, even though it will effectively refute the argument that he's been making (without any real evidence) for three or four years now.

Patently ridiculous argument you make, again.

The argument is that popular operating systems get targeted for viruses and worms more. It's a common sense argument constantly backed up by facts.

The new Windows worm in the press exploits a vulnerability rated "moderate" in severity by Securina, and several of the vulnerabilities fixes in the latest OS X patch are rated "extremely critical" by Securina. That's because the Windows vulnerability was remotely exploitable without a user account on only Windows 2000 machines, while the multiple MacOS X vulnerabilities occur across all supported MacOS X platforms.

Windows and MacOS X both have had multiple security vulnerabilities that can be executed remotely without logging in -- the question of why only Windows vulnerabilities are actively exploited is what we're left with.

And the answer is obvious -- the world runs on Windows. 100% of the World's Mac computers could die today and no one but the Maccies would know it. If 10% of the Windows computers died, it's a huge event.

The logic is amazingly simple, repeatedly shown by example (today is perfect as an example), and it's one that you and Urban Ranger refuse to fathom -- Urban Ranger because he's a brainwashed Stallman zealot and you because you're under Jobs' reality distortion field. There's not much to say aside from you look like a fool when you deny the obvious.

	17-08-2005 06:57									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Asher The argument is that popular operating systems get targeted for viruses and worms more. It's a common sense argument constantly backed up by facts.

Facts from Microsoft's "Get the Facts" Campaign.