17-08-2005 20:14									#1
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I tried to start a PBEM game between me and my friend. I created a map with 16 TOTAL civs, four of which were permantatly allied together, to make them stronger. Now, we started the PBEM, but I dont think that the old (non-alliance) civs are present!!! I dont understand. I put player one and two as humans and the rest as AI, but I dont see what I did wrong... there are supposed to be 16 total players but I only see my friend me and the allied civs.??? Whats wrong? What do i have to do to get them ALL in there, not just the ones I select at the beginning Multiplayer screen?

	19-08-2005 01:40									#2
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Isn't there a maximum of 8 civs in multiplayer? (or is it just 8 human civs...)

	19-08-2005 01:42									#3
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Thats my question (kinda) how many CIVS Total can be in a multiplayer match? (Assuming only two are human)

	20-08-2005 05:55									#4
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16

	20-08-2005 05:56									#5
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All at once? With AI civs? HOW? please help a dumb player out...

	20-08-2005 06:08									#6
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Well, if there are 2 human civs, there should be still enough place for 14 AI civs

	20-08-2005 06:29									#7
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How do you set that up on the Multiplayer startup screen? I only saw slots for 8??? Is there a scroll i am missing?

	20-08-2005 07:07									#8
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Itīs probably 16 on the new packs only. But 8 are still ok, arenīt they

	20-08-2005 07:08									#9
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Yea but I have Civ Complete..

	20-08-2005 07:14									#10
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Try having a look at the CIV3 website, features

	21-08-2005 04:09									#11
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i checked and found nothing- really this should be a simply question answered at apolyton "How many TOTAL number of players can be in a multiplayer game?"

	21-08-2005 04:57									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Datajack Franit 16

Er dude, are you sure?
Granted, it's been awhile since I played Civ3 (any version) but IIRC the max is 8 for MP (be it human or AI, in other words: 8 total).

	21-08-2005 05:34									#13
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I was pretty sure about that?

	21-08-2005 12:20									#14
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I'm pretty sure it's 8. just for the hell of it, I'll start a mp game right now.

	21-08-2005 12:23									#15
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yep it's 8. There is just no room in the player setup for more than 8 civs. I remember this after messing around with multiplayer after PTW came out.

On the left hand column you put your player name. On the right colums you choose which civ for that player (or random).

Another reason this was done was to control for speed and lag issues. It would take forever to finish games with more than 8 people. Even with simultaneous move. Even if half of them were computer ai's it still takes time for the game to process that information. I'm not exactly sure when it is processed for simultanous games, or if the host machine does all the work. and I'm not sure what packets of data are sent over the lines. But I remember there was significant lag when PTW first came out.

	21-08-2005 13:56									#16
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yeah ok shoot me right now

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	23-08-2005 08:56									#19
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As long as I know now... I will redesign my next Multiplayer game to make sure there is no more than 8 total players. Well Thanks alot for the help guys!