18-08-2005 11:58									#1
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Will this amount to much? http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exe...67A41756123.htm

	18-08-2005 12:40									#2
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Russians

	18-08-2005 12:42									#3
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quote: Originally posted by techumseh Will this amount to much?

Lots of broken down equipment?

	18-08-2005 12:44									#4
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I'd like to see another article from somewhere besides Fox News Arabia.

The anti American propaganda gets old.

But making the little guy feel empowered sells news!

	18-08-2005 13:15									#5
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Well, other news sources have it too. From the article linked to below:

"China's military has been modernising rapidly. And, while the Washington regularly sounds alarm bells about China's growing military strength and says it will be keeping an eye on events, it also insists it is not particularly worried.

The Taiwanese, too, will be watching these exercises closely, although they are being held at some distance from Taiwan itself, and there is no appetite in Russia to be sucked into the island's argument with China.

There are specific practical benefits for both participants in these manoeuvres.

For the Russians, they are a showcase for possible further arms sales to Beijing.

For the Chinese, they're a chance to participate in the kind of complicated operations that are an increasing priority for them. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/as...fic/4161660.stm

	18-08-2005 13:47									#6
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Chinese guys: "Greetings, Russian capitalists. Must suggest People's Republic control all submarines in great friendly exercise. Can not tolerate risk of hostile capitalist British or fascist Japanese dog rescue operation in exercise area."

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one swallow doesn't make a summer

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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse one swallow doesn't make a summer

That's what she said.

	18-08-2005 14:34									#9
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Perhaps Dubya has accomplished what Brezhnev and Mao never could!

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quote: Originally posted by techumseh Perhaps Dubya has accomplished what Brezhnev and Mao never could!

No, the severe weakening of the former communist empires was accomplished by many millions of people from many countries over decades, and the renewed cooperation between them began during the Clinton administration.

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quote: Originally posted by techumseh Perhaps Dubya has accomplished what Brezhnev and Mao never could!

Tee hee, what a clot he is.

From that day forward they were friends

	19-08-2005 01:22									#12
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its always good to see a major publisher make a commitment to wargames, i hope theres a market.

Shouldnt this be in other games?

oh, and is it turnbased?

	19-08-2005 01:24									#13
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The political steps are tbs but the combat action is in real time

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I'm in, but only if I get to crash helicopters into my teamates

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quote: Originally posted by BeBro The political steps are tbs but the combat action is in real time

Balance the Hegemon:Total War?

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quote: Originally posted by Sava I'm in, but only if I get to crash helicopters into my teamates

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20050818/41178357.html

	19-08-2005 01:56									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker The anti American propaganda gets old.

Is Ted possibly recovering from the tragic events of last November?

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hope springs eternal

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what are the events of last November?

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quote: Originally posted by Az what are the events of last November?

some silly little country had an election.

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@ Az

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I thought that Ted professed his hate for this administration and America's evil ways before the election, Non?

Btw, you guys still suck for picking george, and I hope to god you didn't vote for him, lotm.

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quote: Originally posted by Az I thought that Ted professed his hate for this administration and America's evil ways before the election, Non? Btw, you guys still suck for picking george, and I hope to god you didn't vote for him, lotm.

remember the Simon and Garfunkel song

"Going to the candidates debate
Laugh about it, shout about it,
When you've got to choose,
Every way you look at it, you lose"

I had a very unhappy day.

I finally said to hell with it and wrote in a name. I voted my preference, instead of trying to vote "strategically" How is it a wasted vote if I couldnt convince myself that either of the candidates was better than the other?

thank goodness for the electoral college. Since i dont live in a swing state, it wouldnt have mattered anyway.

	19-08-2005 02:06									#24
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Omg, you DID vote for bush.

	19-08-2005 02:07									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Az Omg, you DID vote for bush.

I guess you dont know what writing in a name means. You vote for somebody who isnt on the ballot. In this case, with an electronic voting machine, i pressed a button, and used a keyboard to type in the name of my preferred candidate.

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Interesting. I didn't know you could do that in the states.

	19-08-2005 02:13									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Az I thought that Ted professed his hate for this administration and America's evil ways before the election, Non?

Yes, but he became far more inane about it after the election.

	19-08-2005 02:16									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Az Interesting. I didn't know you could do that in the states.

Yup. In rare circumstances a writein candidate can win. There have been circumstances where a candidate dies, and his party doesnt have time to put someone new on the ballot, and a writein campaign is organized. Oh, and in DC, the mayor was running for reelection, and his people f**ked up, and his petitions to get on the ballot were invalid. He launched a writein campaign, and won.


Other than that its pretty symbolic. Especially in a presidential ballot, where we're actually voting for electors pledged to a candidate, even though their names arent on the ballot. If a write in candidate won the majority in a state, who would the electors be? Damned if I know. I really didnt care. I just wanted to cast a vote that wouldnt make me vomit.

	19-08-2005 02:18									#29
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pretty awesome.

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quote: Originally posted by Az pretty awesome.

wanting to not vomit?