19-08-2005 05:36									#1
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http://www.caesariv.com/us/


From the FAQ:

quote: When will I be able to buy Caesar IV? Caesar IV is scheduled to be released in the Fall of 2006.

	19-08-2005 05:38									#2
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There's even a Caesar1 free download.

	19-08-2005 05:55									#3
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It's about time we had this.

	19-08-2005 05:58									#4
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Hail, Thezzeh!

	19-08-2005 06:01									#5
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Looking at this screenshot:




It looks like we'll be able to place buildings facing diagonal streets.

	19-08-2005 06:11									#6
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Looks great, and especially if they can get the damned citizens to deal with intersections in an intelligent manner, this could be an outstanding game.


Man, I remember playing Caesar II for hours and hours and hours at a time. And it had such a great encyclopedia of historical information... great memories.

I'm cautiously optimistic about this.

	19-08-2005 06:16									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer I'm cautiously optimistic about this.

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Is the Caesar series that Sim-city lookalike set in ancient Rome?

	19-08-2005 07:03									#9
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Aye.

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sux

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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer Hail, Thezzeh!

Doesn't look a thing like me.

	19-08-2005 13:58									#12
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Bigus D*ckus!

[q=Spiffor"]Is the Caesar series that Sim-city lookalike set in ancient Rome?
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See if you can find a Ceasar III copy, is absolutely great fun (though it has it flaws but you won't notice them until you become pretty good)!!

	19-08-2005 14:30									#13
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Oooooh ooooh ooooh. This makes me happy. CIII was fun.

And omgdiagonalstreets.

I wonder what it'll look like at release since those screenshots look like placeholder graphics, I also notice a lack of peds .

Exciting.

edit: Ah, I see some of the screenshots on the site look much more impressive.

I remember in CIII one of my favorite past times was pwning Caesar's army. I'd give myself the maximum salary to piss him off then create a delightful death trap, typically a few dozen towers and 50zillion gladiators/lion tamers on a long convulted path. Ahhh slaughter.

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	19-08-2005 14:39									#14
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quote: I remember in CIII one of my favorite past times was pwning Caesar's army. I'd give myself the maximum salary to piss him off then create a delightful death trap, typically a few dozen towers and 50zillion gladiators/lion tamers on a long convulted path. Ahhh slaughter.

I did the exactly same thing all the time too! Huge salary, erect a gazillion towers on the road, put in a few regiments and watch the blue guys die, die, and die.

	19-08-2005 15:11									#15
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If by peds you mean peddlers, this might explain the lack of them:

quote: Will I have to place roadblocks? NO!, and don't ask that anymore! (I can't believe the things you guys come up with sometimes). Caesar IV does not employ a mindless "walker" system, and there is therefore no need to corral your citizens by limiting intersections and placing roadblocks. All citizens are intelligent, they know what they want and try to obtain it. Unlike prior city-building games, well-placed intersections and even shortcut alleyways provide your citizens easier access to the things they seek. Does that mean no more 'stupid market ladies'? All right, now you're getting under my skin. No, no more market ladies! If a household needs food or goods, a member of the family goes on a shopping trip. In fact, all resources move through the city on a "pull" system, that is, they are retrieved, not delivered, by shoppers, cartpushers and harvesters.

There are normal people walking on the other screenshots.

	19-08-2005 15:19									#16
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I think he meant pedestrians.

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Yeah, pedestrians. Just life on the streets. One of the things I like about CIII is the bustling living cities. At the moment Caesar IV looks rather lifeless, but I assume that they'll crank up the ped count as the game nears completion.

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Is the Caesar series that Sim-city lookalike set in ancient Rome?

only in the sense that its a city builder set in ancient Rome. Kinda like saying MOO is Civ in space.

Caeser series (which went on to Pharoah, Cleopatra, Zeus, and an ancient China setting) is far less abstract than Simcity, and is different in many other ways.


So are some of the C4 changed based on COTN?

	20-08-2005 00:32									#19
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This game sounds and looks interesting...

I never got into Caesar III and never tried the first two games... Pharao I also only tried for a short period of time

	20-08-2005 02:35									#20
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This is great news; I liked Caesar III a lot!

I'll believe the quote about intelligent walkers (above) when I see it happen on my screen and not a second before that... Typical developer-talking-about-sequel-speak...

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	20-08-2005 05:57									#21
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Ehm, it's not saying "walkers will be more intelligent", it's saying there will be no walkers. (at least not in the sense that we know them)

It explains how resources will work in the 2nd part.
I imagine an engineering outpust could be road-distance based, it would explain the comment about shortcuts and well-placed intersections. A shortcut could decrease the distance to the engineer and increase it's effectiveness in that area....but now i'm just speculating.

Though i must admit, i did enjoy seeing the houses being upgraded whenever a new type of walker visited them.

	20-08-2005 11:54									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Lemmy http://www.caesariv.com/us/faq/series_fans.php If by peds you mean peddlers, this might explain the lack of them: There are normal people walking on the other screenshots.

That is a tremendous and welcome change. It will reduce annoying micromanagment when planning large cities. I never finished Caesar III or Pharaoh because later missions heavily relied on walker micromanagment above anything else.

	20-08-2005 14:21									#23
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I dabbled in Caesar2, but never really played this series a great deal. Maybe I'll give the new one a look.

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I loved Caesar III, that Caesar IV is coming is a great thing. But is this the original guys or the original company? I think there was a split some time ago?

	21-08-2005 04:49									#25
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IIRC it was taken over and subsequently folded some time later.

	22-08-2005 18:07									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Nikolai I loved Caesar III, that Caesar IV is coming is a great thing. But is this the original guys or the original company? I think there was a split some time ago?

the company folded, but the core guys went on to a new design shop call Tilted Mill, which is putting this out (and earlier did Children of the Nile) not sure how they managed to get the IP rights.

	25-08-2005 23:10									#27
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They better go less in the direction of CotN and more in the direction of earlier citybuilders...

CotN = eyecandy over good gameplay
Previous CBs = good gameplay AND eyecandy

	26-08-2005 19:27									#28
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark the company folded, but the core guys went on to a new design shop call Tilted Mill, which is putting this out (and earlier did Children of the Nile) not sure how they managed to get the IP rights.

VUG is publishing Caesar IV. They own the rights to all Sierra and Impressions material, so Tilted Mill don't need to have bought them. It looks like VUG are happy to keep producing city sim games when it suits them.